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possible panaelous species . want ID!
    #10466013 - 06/07/09 03:44 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Habitat:
fertalized garden,soil base of local soil,store bought hummus/manuer,plenty of horse poo added in, im at the bottom of south carolina near georgia so.....havent a clue what this is
Gills:
color same as stem,attatched,

Stem:
around 2-3 inches long,1/8-1/4inch stems,no bruising,brownish red stem,thick not hollow

Cap:
1/2inch wide, brownish on edges tan center, semi-conical cap,convex
Spore print color:
black spore print......

Bruising:
none present
Other information:
scent is a normal mushroom smell deff not a cube smell more of a wood lover type smell.....and heres some pics


i know this has to be panaelous species just want to know a 100% what the mushroom is its like finding a cool looking plant and dont know its name cuz 100 other kinds of trees look like it....wish i had a microscope for better info but if these are active i have alot of mushrooms on my hand ill check 2morrow as these are still immature im sure of


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Re: possible pan sub. need ID! [Re: durka_durka420]
    #10466046 - 06/07/09 03:51 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

They're a little darker than the ones I've seen, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing. Looks like a subb to me, look for the black spore print.


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Re: possible pan sub. need ID! [Re: freemind]
    #10468158 - 06/07/09 11:45 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

bump due to finding out it has black spores and its panaelous species has to be


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Re: possible pan sub. need ID! [Re: durka_durka420]
    #10468183 - 06/07/09 11:50 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Looks like Panaeolus cinctulus except the stem is too dark.

Maybe its very interesting!

Can you see any blue bruising?

Perhaps you can mail some samples to someone who has a microscope.


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Re: possible pan sub. need ID! [Re: durka_durka420]
    #10468196 - 06/07/09 11:53 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

no blue bruising on the stems where i handled/pinched off glob of dirt...tis weird...


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    #10468204 - 06/07/09 11:55 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

They are pretty cool, take more pictures and make spore prints.

You can bioassay if you have enough, but its more important to save dried samples for science. 


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Re: possible pan sub. need ID! [Re: durka_durka420]
    #10468255 - 06/08/09 12:07 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

i will do temps been quite high thats why im thinking same as you but the darkness is weird guess i need to wait alittle longer to check for bruising..will dry some specemins for research for anyone out there!

im thinking the 2 i picked was immature as im reading immature pan subbs  can have the same coloring and notice how the cap is more downward.screams immature mushroom...it dident wanna print easy so i looked under 30x mag. all i have but it helped find out color of them..more pics will come today


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Re: possible pan sub. need ID! [Re: durka_durka420]
    #10472312 - 06/08/09 07:25 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

well i picked a bunch more forgot to take pics was mental fucked this am....neways some i pinched turned blue still waiting on more spore prints picked about 20 or 30 of these so...


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Re: possible pan sub. need ID! [Re: durka_durka420]
    #10473505 - 06/08/09 10:30 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

The third picture has a color similar to some Panaeolus rickenii. Not an id, something I came across when searching other stuff.

http://www.aranzadi-zientziak.org/fileadmin/images/micologia/Eskaneatuak/09_digital/panaeolus_rickenii_jml_081231007_3020634.jpg


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Re: possible pan sub. need ID! [Re: northgahunt]
    #10473959 - 06/08/09 11:21 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

You should post some more pictures of those dark mushrooms. Sometimes I've noticed that the color can seem to drastically change on the stipe of cinctulus depending on the angle you're viewing from. From the top, they certainly look like they're cinctulus.


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Re: possible pan sub. need ID! [Re: freemind]
    #10474044 - 06/08/09 11:36 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

those are very very very intresting, i wanna see better under a microscope though.


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Re: possible pan sub. need ID! [Re: ProzacPhil]
    #10474190 - 06/09/09 12:06 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

yeah if someone can do microscopy on this specemin id be more then willing to send print and whatever else is needed for positive ID...im sure more will pop up with rain they popped up last rain dident know what they was dident bother to make a id....but heres pics of the caps...as the stems are all dried up exept one live specemin i kept batts went dead on camera...sorry for the dark pics


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Re: possible pan sub. need ID! [Re: durka_durka420]
    #10474771 - 06/09/09 01:34 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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durka_durka420 said:
neways some i pinched turned blue




please take pictures of the bruising reaction


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