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 mushhunter
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 NSW id request 
#10428568 - 05/31/09 05:41 AM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hi, this is my first ID request - so hopefully it's got the right info.
Species 1-4 are probably not psychoactive but I'm curious about what they might be, so if anyone can help with an ID - thanks.
Number 5 I'm not sure if it's a sub or not.
I've put in a photo of the spore prints to help - one for each species, they read left to right species #1, #2, etc. (don't worry about the sixth one).
Thanx
Species #1
Habitat: NSW – Sydney north shore, found on pine bark
Gills: Attached, light orange/brown color
Stem: 50mm length, bulbous towards base, hollow, straight lines visible on the outside.
Cap: 45-55mm in diameter, light brown colour, smooth texture, concave becoming convex on maturity.
Spore print color: brown
Bruises: brown
Species #2
Habitat: NSW – Sydney north shore, found on pine bark
Gills: Attached, light brown color
Stem: 25-50mm length, hollow, straight lines visible on the outside, light ring around the stem just under the edge of the cap.
Cap: 10-45mm in diameter, tan colour, smooth texture, irregular edging on cap, gills come up to the edge, conical.
Spore print color: dark brown
Bruises: dark brown/black
Species #3
Habitat: NSW – Sydney north shore, found on pine bark
Gills: Attached, faint green/yellow colour
Stem: 40mm length, slight bulb at base, faint green/yellow colour.
Cap: 50mm in diameter, dark green colour, smooth texture, convex.
Spore print color: brown
Bruises: none
Species #4
Habitat: NSW – Sydney north shore, found on pine bark
Gills: Yellow color
Stem: 25-30mm length, thick and solid stem, straight lines visible on the outside, ring on stem at the line of the end of the cap.
Cap: 10-25 mm in diameter, small red warts, rough texture, cap wraps under edge of the cap convex.
Spore print color: brown
Bruises: rusty-red brown
Species #5
Habitat: NSW – Sydney north shore, found on pine bark
Gills: not attached?, greeny grey with yellow tinge colour
Stem: 45mm length, solid.
Cap: 10-35mm in diameter, yellow brown colour becoming more brown toward centre of cap, smooth texture, spherical convex.
Spore print color: purple/black
Bruises: faint red/brown
Other: multiple stems coming from same base.
Spore prints:
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Azura
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Species 3 could be a Dermocybe Austroveneta. I'm not to positive about it.
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mushhunter
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Re: NSW id request [Re: Azura]
#10433796 - 06/01/09 03:11 AM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thnx Azura - I'll chase it up.
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_JJ_
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Species #2 look like subs to me (active). Can you post slightly better pics?
Also, try not to remove the woodchips when you pick. Best to use scissors 
Edited by _JJ_ (06/01/09 03:28 AM)
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mushhunter
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Re: NSW id request [Re: _JJ_]
#10433960 - 06/01/09 05:04 AM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thnx _JJ_
The shroom has shrivelled a bit since the photo, so I'll get another one and take another pic tomorrow for you.
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_JJ_
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I'm pretty certain they're subs. Grab the lot (leave the smaller pins though)
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mushhunter
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Re: NSW id request [Re: _JJ_]
#10439815 - 06/02/09 04:44 AM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hi _JJ_
I'm not so sure species #2 are subs.
The spore print is more brown than purple and the stems are not staining/bruising blue - only bruising brown. Any ideas?
Here's another pic of the gills.
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Apocalypso
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Nah dude, thats not a sub. 
The gills and stem are the wrong colour and I see no blue bruising.
Edit: Unless its just the lighting, but I doubt it.
Edited by Apocalypso (06/02/09 04:51 AM)
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_JJ_
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Hmm. Can you get better pics with balanced lighting? Use the macro function on your camera if you can. That photo of the gills doesn't look too great - but the colour looks as if you've used yellow lighting.
The bruising can vary as well.
Also, post up a better pic of the print - they can be dark purple to brownish in my experience.
Looking at the very last small mushroom with a bit of woodchip attached - it really does look like a sub. Anyone else have any thoughts?
Edit: It does look like there's no bruising on the edges of the caps though.. I pretty much always see that on subs. Hmmmm..
Edited by _JJ_ (06/02/09 04:55 AM)
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Re: NSW id request [Re: _JJ_]
#10439834 - 06/02/09 04:52 AM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah a spore print would clear this up lol
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mushhunter
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Yeah, I'm having problems with the camera and this one was the best of about 20 after mucking around with manual settings and lighting. :(
The first series of photos at the top of the post still seem the best for lighting - You can click on the photos to enlarge them and get a better look.
The spore print photo is up there too - the print for this one is the second one from the left in the top row. You might need to click on it to enlarge it to get a better look.
Cheers
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Apocalypso
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It should look more like the print in the middle of the bottom row.
You can wait for a trusted identifier to respond if you want though.
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 johnnyblaze2316
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its not a sub.
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_JJ_
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If they're not subs, what are they? Galerinas?
The dark brown/black bruising is what gets me. Galerinas wouldn't bruise like that afaik.
Try taking photos under a desk lamp. Or use the flash if you're not already?
Edited by _JJ_ (06/02/09 10:03 AM)
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Re: NSW id request [Re: _JJ_]
#10440751 - 06/02/09 10:11 AM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah i'm guessing galerina autumnalis cos of the gill/spore print colour..
Edited by Apocalypso (06/02/09 10:12 AM)
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: NSW id request [Re: _JJ_]
#10440920 - 06/02/09 10:53 AM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
Species #2 look like subs to me (active). Can you post slightly better pics?
It does look like that, but it is actually a deadly Galerina.
The orange ring on the mushroom on the right in the first pic has a orange ring that is barely visible but is clearly there.
Please don't suggest that a mushroom might be active unless you are 100% sure - there are a lot of people out there that really want to trip and will eat anything if someone on the internet says it looks active. This thread could have gone downhill real fast, I am glad you got it sorted out without eating them!
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Looking at the very last small mushroom with a bit of woodchip attached - it really does look like a sub. Anyone else have any thoughts?
That one looks like the poisonous Hypholoma fasciculare (sulphur tuft) but is probably an edible lookalike closer to H. capnoides.
1) Dermocybe austroveneta
2) Galerina marginata
3) Dermocybe austroveneta
4) Could be a Gymnopilus. Check the texture of the cap, taste a tiny bit and spit it out, and look for green stains at the base of the stem. It reminds me a bit of G. purpuratus.
5) Hypholoma, maybe H. capnoides or some other Hypholoma species.
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mushhunter
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Thanx guys - just as well I was munching away on something else rather than the galerinas
Alan,
On species #4 I tasted it as you said - very bitter and acidic. No green stains at the base - only dark brown stains. Any thoughts?
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Alan Rockefeller
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Quote:
On species #4 I tasted it as you said - very bitter and acidic. No green stains at the base - only dark brown stains. Any thoughts?
Probably an inactive Gymnopilus. Take lots more pictures and check it out under the microscope.
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Apocalypso
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So Autumnalis is just called Marginata now? cool. learning
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mushhunter
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Thanx for the responses guys.
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