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 jonnyjonjonjon
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#10058571 - 03/28/09 04:49 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've came across articles talking about colloidal silver a few times and it sounds like a real effective antibiotic. The Romans used it as an antibiotic and loads of people use it today and say it kills heaps of kinds of disease causing bacterias and can therefore cure a good few diseases. I wonder why you don't find the stuff in the pharmacies? I saw a retard (god knows how this dumb bitch is licensed to be a doctor) tell a man who cured his ulcer with colloidal silver that colloidal silver cannot cure ulcers and is not a real antibiotic. I doubt the placebo effects is very effective at curing ulcer so thats no explanation.
I happen to have a hernia which seems to be evolving into some more serious problems lately so this is a perfect opportunity to put this colloidal silver stuff to the test. I've had this hernia for a year and I get acid reflux all the time cuz of it so I'll be able to accurately judge whether the colloidal silver worked or not. I found plans on the internet and one of them only requires 3 9V batteries, some wire, a bit of silver wire and a glass of water. I don't know how this works exactly cuz they say use distilled water and they say that the current will cause chemical reactions in the water molecules but how the hell can current flow through distilled water? I thought the water had to be tainted slightly to become conductive.
Anyhow Im gonna test this out and I'll post the results here.
Heres a page that lists the diseases that this shit can supposedly help cure
http://www.colloidalsilver4u.com/7.html
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Trepiodos
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Whatever you do, don't go overboard. The silver will settle in your skin and if you take too much internally, you will eventually exhibit a gray/blue hue.
The condition is called, argyria.
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I use colloidal silver when my candida gets out of balance. Im not sure that it is useful for other infections though.
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How can you tell when candida is out of balance? It seems to me when I get foot fungus it means that candida is out of balance, or so I've heard. I treat my food externally with coconut oil, and I treat it internally with coconut oil, raw apple cider vinegar, and garlic, seems to work well.
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Foot fungus is a whole different breed of monster than candida. Foot fungus is caused by trich.
Candida shows up in the belly button most prominently, it will get all grey/black scales and nasty in there. It also shows up in the scalp, similarly with scales.
Sometimes stomach aches will happen to, and you will have green shits.
Make sure that you wait 4 hours after eating and arent going to eat again for atleast another 4 hours when you take the colloidial silver.
The silver can be used internally or externally. If the candida has made it to your belly button and scalp you deffinatley need to use it internally to.
It comes about from eating too much fruit (mostly) or having a high fruit percentage in your diet.
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Edited by MisterMuscaria (03/28/09 07:46 AM)
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jonnyjonjonjon
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Trepiodos said:
Whatever you do, don't go overboard. The silver will settle in your skin and if you take too much internally, you will eventually exhibit a gray/blue hue.
The condition is called, argyria.
Haha I saw a video of the smurf on youtube. He got the external argyria from rubbing colloidal silver on his face to treat his skin condition though not drinking it. I'd say it dyes your stomach and esophagus blue aswell but who gives a shit what color your insides are. As far as I know theres no other effects of argyria apart from your skin going blue. If you ever had an operation the surgeon would get some surprise though haha.
I noticed that post was your 333'rd post. A couple of days ago I went onto a youtube channel and I noticed they had added their 333'rd video 33 minutes earlier. Madness.
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I looked into research on colloidal silver and could never find a definitive answer on whether the wire and battery method makes the real stuff - there was debate on whether it was "colloidal" or "ionic" silver.
Anyway, I'm sorry to say I don't think colloidal silver will have much impact; a hernia is a rupture in the intestinal wall, and as I understand it they are hard to heal without surgery (although I have found a few reports of people who have done it). However if colloidal silver is indeed an effective healing agent maybe it will help. I thought I had a hernia about a month ago (I think it might have just been a pulled muscle in my groin) but I tried to follow advice like this:
"1. Stop smoking immediately.
2. Don't drink Alcohol.
3. Lose weight to get to target weight.
4. Eat meals the size of your fist.
5. Wear lose-fitting clothes.
6. Avoid lying down for 3 hours after a meal.
7. Raise the head of your bed 6 to 8 inches with blocks of wood. Gravity will be your aid on this simple remedy.
8. Check your food thoroughly.
9. Drink water after you eat."
Does your hernia actually pop out? I found one place that actually sold a brace that evenly distributed pressure, but I can't find it at the moment.
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Re: Colloidal Silver [Re: bradley]
#10132514 - 04/08/09 06:34 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Its a peptic hernia whatever the hell that is. From what I've gathered bacteria live inside this rupture thats why the rupture doesn't heal up like it ordinarily would. I'm thinking that if I drink some colloidal silver it'll hit the hernia, kill the bacteria then it might start to heal in the absence of the bacteria. At the same time wouldn't this shit kill all the good bacteria in the stomach too?
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I don't know; I think I've read colloidal silver is more benevolent towards native bacteria than typical antiobiotics (although I'm not sure how it would know the difference).
The most important thing is to improve your immune system and minimize any stress on that area. I would eat a light diet of mostly raw foods, drink lots of water, take adaptogens, maybe some vitamin c or other healing supplements, and top it off with colloidal silver.
Good luck, I hope you have success.
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Re: Colloidal Silver [Re: bradley]
#10133200 - 04/08/09 08:46 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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On second thought, bacteria feeds off sugar; have you considered following the atkins diet to minimize the bacteria count? You could probably make that consistent with mostly raw food. I am just reasoning here; no actual expertise.
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I heard this crap is just a marketing scheme without any real evidence out there that proves that it actually helps any kind of ailment.
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jonnyjonjonjon
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I tried it and it worked. No more acid reflux. Not even after drinking vodka or eating loads of food before going to bed. I'm gonna go to the hospital eventually and find out if the hernia is actually healed up or not. If it is then I have no doubt its the colloidal silver that did it because I've had that thing for a year and now suddenly I'm not getting acid reflux anymore. I found an article on pravda.ru on colloidal silver just there too.
http://english.pravda.ru/science/health/30-04-2009/107477-Colloidal_silver-0
Says in that article that colloidal silver works by disabling a vital enzyme thats necessary for the survival of all bacteria and that bacteria cannot develop resistance to colloidal silver. Also says it works on viruses but I cant see how that makes sense.
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RombaZomba said:
I heard this crap is just a marketing scheme without any real evidence out there that proves that it actually helps any kind of ailment.
This goes to show that you can't believe everything you hear. I heard the same shit about colloidal silver and was skeptical but since it had been used as an antibiotic thousands of years ago I figured it has to have some antibiotic properties.
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Great to hear!
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jonnyjonjonjon said:
Also says it works on viruses but I cant see how that makes sense.
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...you can't believe everything you hear.
And there you go. 
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>>I happen to have a hernia which seems to be evolving into some more serious problems lately so this is a perfect opportunity to put this colloidal silver stuff to the test. I've had this hernia for a year and I get acid reflux all the time cuz of it so I'll be able to accurately judge whether the colloidal silver worked or not.
What kind of hernia do you have? I would guess you have a hiatal hernia if you have symptomatology of acid reflux. This is when the stomach pushes through the opening of the diaphragm and the top part of the stomach ends up in the chest. It eventually requires corrective surgery if it herniates more, but minor herniations can be managed medically usually through medications to reduce acid reflux.
Theoretically the Colloidal silver should NOT help your acid reflux disease because your acid reflux is of a mechanical origin. The diaphragm is squeezing the stomach contents out of the stomach. IF colloidal silver works (and that's up for debate, but there is some validity of transitional metal ions being good antibiotics, but that doesn't it's more effective than other traditional treatments, because it probably isn't) .. but anyway if colloidal silver works then it works by reducing H. Pylori in the gut through antibiotic action which is one of the main causes of ulcers and lends to acid reflux as well. However I would debate that colloidal silver could actually do this because of the mechanism in which H. Pylori lives in the gut by creating a very basic environment around itself along with loads of mucuous. I doubt colloidal silver penetrates and kills the bacteria. It would also have to work by strengthening the Upper Esophageal Sphincter, which there is no evidence for that as well and probably few studies anyway. Point is, anectdotal evidence and "well if the placebo effect works" statements are not good science and allows for many confounding variables to make it appear that a snake oil indeed is medicine. Careful with the agyria as well.
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Re: Colloidal Silver [Re: neuro]
#10322823 - 05/11/09 01:52 PM (3 years, 16 days ago) |
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neuro said:
er the colloidal silver worked or not.
What kind of hernia do you have? I would guess you have a hiatal hernia if you have symptomatology of acid reflux.
Peptic hernia. I had an endoscopy and I'm gonna go in for another one and find out if its still there. I looked up peptic hernia but can't find any info. I can find peptic ulcer
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Peptic hernia. I had an endoscopy and I'm gonna go in for another one and find out if its still there. I looked up peptic hernia but can't find any info. I can find peptic ulcer
I'm guessing you've misheard your doctor. I suspect you have 1 of three possibilities. 1) a hiatal hernia with super imposed peptic ulcer caused by the hernia or 2) peptic ulcer [caused by H. Pylori infection] 3) something completely different that you have not related correctly because there is no such thing as a peptic hernia.
Here is why.
A hernia is by definition the pushing through a membrane by a structure. For example an umbilical hernia is your intestines protruding into your belly button. A inguinal hernia is a loop of your intestine pushing into the cord that goes to your testicle into your scrotum. So if your doctor says you have a hernia and you also complain acid reflux, you most likely have a hiatal hernia. Which is the pushing of your stomach through the hiatus (the hole in your diaphragm and up into the chest).
Now as a result of having a hiatal hernia you can have a peptic ulcer because of the mechanical forces of the strangling by the diaphragm muscle of the stomach that cause acid reflux and erosion of stomach wall.
OR you could just have a peptic ulcer because of H. Pylori infection.
If you had an endoscopoy that could reveal a hiatal hernia or a peptic ulcer. However if you had a hiatal hernia revealed by endoscopy then you may have had extra tests done including a CT scan or a barium swallow under x-ray. If not then you probably have a peptic ulcer.
Peptic ulcers are probably due to H. Pylori infection in the stomach nearly 99% of the time. The 2006 nobel prize in medicine went to Warren and Marshall from australia for their work in identifying the causative agent in peptic ulcer disease, long thought to be caused by stress and alcohol alone. Their experiment was to drink culture bacteria from the stomach of cadavers with evidence of peptic ulcers. Soon after drinking the culture of bacteria they got peptic ulcers themselves. Not a bad way to win a nobel prize eh?
So now if you're going back for another endoscopy to see if the ulcer is still there (assuming that's what's going on cause i'm telling you there is no such thing as a peptic hernia [i would imagine a peptic hernia would be most nearly a volvulus which is the twsting of your stomach) that must mean you had some treatment. Did you take two antibiotics metronidazole and amoxicillin or something for a few weeks? Did you have something done called the urease breath test?
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Re: Colloidal Silver [Re: neuro]
#10396183 - 05/25/09 01:02 PM (3 years, 2 days ago) |
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Peptic hernia. I had an endoscopy and I'm gonna go in for another one and find out if its still there. I looked up peptic hernia but can't find any info. I can find peptic ulcer
I'm guessing you've misheard your doctor. I suspect you have 1 of three possibilities. 1) a hiatal hernia with super imposed peptic ulcer caused by the hernia or 2) peptic ulcer [caused by H. Pylori infection] 3) something completely different that you have not related correctly because there is no such thing as a peptic hernia.
Here is why.
A hernia is by definition the pushing through a membrane by a structure. For example an umbilical hernia is your intestines protruding into your belly button. A inguinal hernia is a loop of your intestine pushing into the cord that goes to your testicle into your scrotum. So if your doctor says you have a hernia and you also complain acid reflux, you most likely have a hiatal hernia. Which is the pushing of your stomach through the hiatus (the hole in your diaphragm and up into the chest).
Now as a result of having a hiatal hernia you can have a peptic ulcer because of the mechanical forces of the strangling by the diaphragm muscle of the stomach that cause acid reflux and erosion of stomach wall.
OR you could just have a peptic ulcer because of H. Pylori infection.
If you had an endoscopoy that could reveal a hiatal hernia or a peptic ulcer. However if you had a hiatal hernia revealed by endoscopy then you may have had extra tests done including a CT scan or a barium swallow under x-ray. If not then you probably have a peptic ulcer.
Peptic ulcers are probably due to H. Pylori infection in the stomach nearly 99% of the time. The 2006 nobel prize in medicine went to Warren and Marshall from australia for their work in identifying the causative agent in peptic ulcer disease, long thought to be caused by stress and alcohol alone. Their experiment was to drink culture bacteria from the stomach of cadavers with evidence of peptic ulcers. Soon after drinking the culture of bacteria they got peptic ulcers themselves. Not a bad way to win a nobel prize eh?
So now if you're going back for another endoscopy to see if the ulcer is still there (assuming that's what's going on cause i'm telling you there is no such thing as a peptic hernia [i would imagine a peptic hernia would be most nearly a volvulus which is the twsting of your stomach) that must mean you had some treatment. Did you take two antibiotics metronidazole and amoxicillin or something for a few weeks? Did you have something done called the urease breath test?
I stopped taking the colloidal silver and the acid reflux came back. The ulcer or whatever the hell it is is still there. I've been drinking a fair bit since I'm off college and it seems to be getting worse. I've been having mild pains on my right side so I told my doctor to gimme a letter so I can get an MRI but he recommended I get an ultrasound instead so I did. I think my doctors a bit of a nutjob because I asked him "can ulcers escalate into worse problems?" and he replies "no not really" and I asked him "can acid reflux cause any problems" and he replies "no". I read up on it and found out that ulcers can go up a notch to perforate ulcers or bleeding ulcers which are fairly dangerous. Acid reflux can erode the esophagus. I'd say its time to go to a new GP.
If nothing shows up on the ultrasound I'm gonna go in for another endoscopy and get this ulcer bullshit sorted out for good because doesnt seem like its gonna heal by itself. Ive had the fuckin thing a year now.
I take it your studying medical science.
EDIT: I can't remember what the medication they gave me last year was but they told me it would "bring down the swelling". That sounds like a hernia but at the same time they told me it was caused by a bacterial infection whatever it was. Its most likely an ulcer not a hernia. I'm gonna wait and see what shows up on this ultrasound. I dunno why the hell my doctor suggested an ultrasound when he knew I had an ulcer but at the same time I'd been meaning to get my liver checked so Im glad I got the ultrasound.
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Edited by jonnyjonjonjon (05/25/09 01:12 PM)
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