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 Ganja420Boy
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 Mono tub with water on the bottom 
#10326619 - 05/12/09 12:39 PM (4 years, 7 days ago) |
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I have got a mono tub that appears to be 100% colonized but I wanted it to sit a few more days to be sure but the problem is I can see water underneath the bag liner building up.
So what I'm wanting to know is should this water be dumped now or should I wait until I'm ready to put it in fruiting conditions?
I'm a bit worried because if I dump it now it might get contaminated where I cant see it or if I let it be the standing water might cause a contamination, What would you do?
Thanks for any help 
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Re: Mono tub with water on the bottom [Re: Ganja420Boy]
#10326641 - 05/12/09 12:48 PM (4 years, 7 days ago) |
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first step: dont panic!
i would mabey drill or melt a hole in the bottom corner and then tilt it over the sink or container to drain most of it off. check for a smell. but im a newb so dont take my word for it. just a thought. i mean if you dont want water there then get rid of it.
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Re: Mono tub with water on the bottom [Re: chronosync]
#10326693 - 05/12/09 01:03 PM (4 years, 7 days ago) |
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Okay for one usually you don't put a monotub into fruiting conditions it is suppose to be self sustaining.
You are gonna want to get that water out cause sitting water is a breeding ground for bacteria. If it is a small tub I would rub your hand down in alcohol then put your hand on the sub and just tip the tub on it's side, with a bigger tub you could do this you would just need help.
Or as chronosync stated you could put a small hole in the tub and drain it just put a piece of duck tape over so it won't leak.
Its weird that your monotub has that much moisture maybe it is contaminated, contams usually produce more heat so there might be more condensation building up. Got any pics.
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Re: Mono tub with water on the bottom [Re: JMR]
#10326770 - 05/12/09 01:24 PM (4 years, 7 days ago) |
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I wish I had a camera but I don't.
what I mean by fruiting conditions is just taking the tyvek off that I taped over the holes for GE and replace it with polyfill.
I don't think its contaminated yet because my last 2 tubs did this and 1 is going on a 3rd flush and the other on its second. I think it is happening because I cant keep a steady temperature range and causing water condensation to build up.
When I dumped the water from the 2 tubs mentioned above it was just a big hassle because my tubs are F'ing huge. But I guess you got to do what it takes to take care of the problem.
Also thanks for the tips so far. I like the idea of a small hole on the bottom of the tub.
Any more tips would be great.
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Re: Mono tub with water on the bottom [Re: JMR]
#10326961 - 05/12/09 02:11 PM (4 years, 7 days ago) |
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JMR said:
Okay for one usually you don't put a monotub into fruiting conditions it is suppose to be self sustaining.
You are gonna want to get that water out cause sitting water is a breeding ground for bacteria. If it is a small tub I would rub your hand down in alcohol then put your hand on the sub and just tip the tub on it's side, with a bigger tub you could do this you would just need help.
Or as chronosync stated you could put a small hole in the tub and drain it just put a piece of duck tape over so it won't leak.
Its weird that your monotub has that much moisture maybe it is contaminated, contams usually produce more heat so there might be more condensation building up. Got any pics.
Hey guys i have been out of the cultivations side of the site for a few weeks now. But i stopped in and then i seen this. Yes you do have to put a mono tub into fruiting conditions so please stop posting miss leading info. If you place the mono tub into light and add FAE as soon as you spawn it it will start to fruit before it is fully colonized and give contams a fighting chance to take over.
Remember you don't sterilize the substrate your spawning to but only pasteurizing it so you don't kill every thing but just enough to give the myc a chance to take over and win the fight and colonize the substrate. But if you don't give it that chance by restricting the pinning triggers you are subject to contams.
So you block out the light and keep it to only GE and not FAE until it is fully colonized and then you introduce fruiting conditions, such as. placing polyfill in the wholes instead of tape and introducing light. the only thing that a mono tub does on it own is provide a micro climate of humidity and pulls in fresh air while expelling c02 and steal air. but you try to keep that at bay until it is fully colonized.
and to the OP you can leave it if it isn't too much, i have had 1/4inch and haven't had a problem. but if it is alot then simply take a phillips head screw diver and set it on the stove to get it hot and then poke it into two corners on the same end and the tip it towards that end over the tub and drain it out.
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Re: Mono tub with water on the bottom [Re: Doodle]
#10327082 - 05/12/09 02:40 PM (4 years, 7 days ago) |
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Thanks, I will be putting 2 small holes in the tub on 2 corners.
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Re: Mono tub with water on the bottom [Re: Doodle]
#10328046 - 05/12/09 05:56 PM (4 years, 7 days ago) |
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I am gonna have to disagree with you doodle on my monotubs I have the holes taped with micropore tape and I saran wrap the top and I don't take the saran wrap off till the first flush is harvested.
So no FAE, no light, no misting, no fanning, and it works every time. Once a substrate like hpoo is fully colonized it fruits just like in a filter patch bag so there is proof I have seen with my own eyes.
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Re: Mono tub with water on the bottom [Re: JMR]
#10328079 - 05/12/09 06:04 PM (4 years, 7 days ago) |
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dont drill a hole.
Just go to the bathroom, put your hand to support the cake, and drain the excess water.
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Re: Mono tub with water on the bottom [Re: azshroomer]
#10328139 - 05/12/09 06:21 PM (4 years, 7 days ago) |
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Yeah i mean, people do invitro fruiting in jars also. but have you seen the yields. I'm not saying its not impossible but its definitely not giving your grow optimal conditions. on the other hand when done right you know what kinda results you'll be getting. like this.
here's one flush off a 64qt tub done right that gave over a qp dried
and here's three 1/4s of a pound off of a tub with two flushes done the right way.
and why not drill holes in the tub. its less abusive than holding the sub with your hand trying to drain it when he doesn't even know if its completely colonized in the center. why risk cracking the sub and having to take the lid off when you can put two 3/8 inch holes in it and slightly tip it up and drain it, and that way if it does it again he already has the holes.
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Re: Mono tub with water on the bottom [Re: Doodle]
#10328236 - 05/12/09 06:46 PM (4 years, 7 days ago) |
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Doodle thats some good harvesting, I hope I can soon reach that kind of goal. My best from a recent monotub was only 2oz dry from a second flush, but I also had a few fuck ups along the way.
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Doodle said:
and why not drill holes in the tub. its less abusive than holding the sub with your hand trying to drain it when he doesn't even know if its completely colonized in the center. why risk cracking the sub and having to take the lid off when you can put two 3/8 inch holes in it and slightly tip it up and drain it, and that way if it does it again he already has the holes.
This was my main reason for posting because I didnt want to crack it open not knowing if it is really 100% colonized. My last tub that did this I opened the tub and tipped it on its side to drain, the substrate ended up breaking in half and I also found parts that wasnt colonized yet although it appeared to be 100% colonized when in the tub. I cant believe it didnt contaminate 
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Re: Mono tub with water on the bottom [Re: Ganja420Boy]
#10328279 - 05/12/09 06:52 PM (4 years, 7 days ago) |
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thanks on the compliment. and yeah i hate touching the sub until after the first flush. then i know it has had enough time to fully colonize through the center. and pulling a qp off each tub isn't a hard goal to reach once you get it down. I pull about a pound off each tub in three flushes before tossing em out and starting new ones.
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