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OfflineMarqDeSade
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cube subspecies in central Alabama
    #10306394 - 05/08/09 03:09 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I dont claim to be an advanced "mycologist" so this statement should serve as an appropriate disclaimer and prelude into my thread.

I currently live in central alabama and im trying to make the most of it. For the past 6 years ive been making occasional trips to the nearby cowfield for my spiritual guidance and muse.

My past two trips in the last couple days of this week have been unrewarding. I usualy check around my house and treeline for wild growing mushrooms as a good indicator of humidity and saturation.
Ive yet to find a potent cube this season but i seem to keep stumbling apon a subspieces, or prehaps a slightly poisionious cap that ive been ingesting these past two days. Ive yet to take a photo, but im hopeing that someone whom reads this could supply me with photos of subspeices that are common in my region for this time of year. The cap appears to be cube. Light to brown coloring of the cap. Dark colored ring around the edges..Maroonish to black. The gills are also appearing to be maroonish to maroon-black. close, and detached from the stem by only a couple centimeters. The stem DOES oxidize blue, but usualy after an hour or 2 hours at the most. The staining is not very dark. A spore print on white paper coverd by alum foil reveals a color too dark to properly identify.  ingestion gives me the intial "check list" of indicators thati get when  ive found what im looking for but after a couple hours it subsides with very little "yeild". What am i finding, and am i wasteing my time by harvesting them?

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Re: cube subspecies in central Alabama [Re: MarqDeSade]
    #10306512 - 05/08/09 04:20 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Post pictures of specimen and spore print in the Mushroom Hunting and Identification forum. There is not such thing as any "subspecies" of Psilocybe cubensis in the sense that you described. Psilocybe subcubensis does exist, but it cannot be distinguished from Psilocybe cubensis by anything other than its spore size. If you found one you would identify it as P. cubensis.


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Re: cube subspecies in central Alabama [Re: German Kahuna]
    #10306970 - 05/08/09 07:34 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

What you're finding may be Panaeolus Subbalteatus.  Do what GK said though, you'll find out for sure that way.

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Re: cube subspecies in central Alabama [Re: libertaire]
    #10308301 - 05/08/09 01:58 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

> Psilocybe subcubensis does exist,

Actually it doesn't.  It's just another cubensis.  There has been at least one paper published depreciating the name.  And genetic analysis shows it to be identical to cubensis.

It was a mistake in the first place to try to give it a separate species name based solely on spore size, now it's been corrected.


To the OP...  Don't go around eating random LBMs (little brown mushrooms).  There are thousands of species like this and you better be sure of your ID before you eat it.

Without seeing it there's no way to tell what it is.  Take pictures or bring a sample in to your local university or mycology group.

From your description I would guess it's maybe an inky cap, but you really didn't describe it very well at all.  Inky caps have a dark spore print that's quite thick and they're very common.


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Re: cube subspecies in central Alabama (moved) [Re: MarqDeSade]
    #10310395 - 05/08/09 09:52 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

This thread was moved from Advanced Mycology.

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Not an advanced mycology topic.

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Re: cube subspecies in central Alabama (moved) [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #10310508 - 05/08/09 10:19 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

hmmm, it doesnt really even sound like a cubensis from the way you described it. but who knows without a pic and spore print theres no way to tell.


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Re: cube subspecies in central Alabama (moved) [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #10310521 - 05/08/09 10:22 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

<img src='http://www.shroomery.org/forums/images/moved.gif'> This thread was moved from Advanced Mycology.

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Re: cube subspecies in central Alabama (moved) [Re: jet li]
    #10310532 - 05/08/09 10:25 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

ahhhhh Jet Li is following me!!!!:eek:


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