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 Rahz
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 A healthy diet 
#10253667 - 04/28/09 11:52 PM (3 years, 28 days ago) |
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This list covers pretty much everything a body could want. There are other foods that could make the list, but these are the foods I like. And I eat other things, some healthy, some problematic (sugary desert, occasional fast food, etc.) It's not what you eat that will kill you, it's what you don't eat. So, regular helpings of the items in this list will cover all major vitamin/mineral deficiencies, and they'll make you feel good.
List 1: Foods that are always stocked at my home.
Eggs
Low Fat Milk
Whole Grain Cereals (oat, wheat, barley, etc.) (Bobs 7 and 8 grain cereals/mulitgrain bread)
Honey
White Chicken
Liver Mush
Peanuts
Walnuts
Almonds
Orange Juice
Grape Juice
Cheese
Salmon
Extra Virgin Olive Oil
Minced Garlic
Apples
Brown Rice
Cocoa Powder
Whey Powder
Corn Chips
Hemp Nuts
Sunflower Seeds
Using List 1:
Protein Shake: (mix 6 lbs whey with 1 pound cocoa), Blend whey mix with milk, raw eggs, and hemp nuts.
Salmon Salad: 1 6oz can of salmon drained, mixed with 2 table spoons olive oil, 2 table spoons mustard, 1 table spoon minced Garlic, pepper (or hot sauce) to taste. Goes good with corn chips, or whole wheat crackers.
Chicken and Rice: prepared many ways, good with bone broth gravy , good with garlic.
Bobs 7 or 8 grain cereal: Cook it up and add some honey and milk.
Cheese: Cheese and cracker (or corn chips).
Apples, Peanuts, Walnuts, Almonds, Sunflower Seeds: For snacking
OJ: The drink of choice.
Liver Mush: Fried
Grape Juice: Watered down so it's not so strong.
French Toast: Multigrain bread + Eggs + syrup (maple if you got it)= delicious.
Note on Salmon: Has more EFAs than tuna, has less mercury than tuna.
List 2: Fruits I eat when I get my hands on them:
Melons
Strawberries
Cherries
Blackberries
Blueberries
Raspberries
Peaches
List 3: The Salad: I eat salads as often as possible. It's my primary interest (along with steak) when I go out, as I don't care to mess with stocking all the fresh veggies needed for it.
Assorted Greens(broccoli, kale, spinach, Romaine, etc.)
Onions
Tomatoes
Cucumbers
Pineapple
Cabbage
Olives
Carrot
Peppers
Green Beans
Okra
Mushrooms
The rest: Stuff I like but don't normally stock:
Lean Beef
Lamb
Sardines
Sesame Seeds (good in the Salmon salad)
Potatoes
Sweet Potatoes
Pumpkin Seeds
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Re: A healthy diet [Re: Rahz]
#10254420 - 04/29/09 06:21 AM (3 years, 28 days ago) |
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I think you diet is ok, its not the best, but its not the worst. If I were you I might cut out the meat for a week and add in a lot more fruit ( like a whole lot! =D). Fruit really is the best source of calories for our bodies, its so amazing. Try it! <3
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-more meat (as long as it's grass-fed) (preferably raw)
-less dairy and grains
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Rahz
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I guess it's hard to tell from the list how much I eat. I usually have an apple a day, and at least one or two glasses of OJ, sometimes other fruits. I've tried all kinds of diets and don't care for more fruit than that. I wouldn't want to live off of fruit.
I eat mostly chicken and fish, and with the other stuff added in I get a minimum of 70-80 grams of protein.
I probably drink more than the recommended amounts of milk, but it seems pretty healthy.
One thing I've learned is that what's "healthy" will vary from one person to the next. Whether I want a food, and how it makes me feel after eating it, are both factors in making it in my diet. Pay attention to the body, and you can't go wrong. I posted this list thinking it might spark some ideas. Post your diets, and turn me on to something tasty.
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Re: A healthy diet [Re: Rahz]
#10254693 - 04/29/09 08:24 AM (3 years, 28 days ago) |
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Milk is only healthy if it is hormone/antibiotic free, grass fed, and raw. I doubt that's what your drinking, but its what you want to be.
I would switch out most of your grains/rice with quinoa. It is high in protein and very high in essential minerals, great food.
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This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and affection for a few persons nearest us.
Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole nature in its beauty.
Nobody is able to achieve this completely but striving for such achievement is, in itself, a part of the liberation and a foundation for inner security."
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Re: A healthy diet [Re: Rahz]
#10255161 - 04/29/09 10:05 AM (3 years, 28 days ago) |
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Rahz said:
Pay attention to the body, and you can't go wrong.
This is very true. Although, with many people listening to their bodies would cause them to be eating junk food all day long.
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Re: A healthy diet [Re: Rahz]
#10255686 - 04/29/09 11:40 AM (3 years, 28 days ago) |
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Quote:
Rahz said:
List 1: Foods that are always stocked at my home.
Eggs
Low Fat Milk
Whole Grain Cereals (oat, wheat, barley, etc.) (Bobs 7 and 8 grain cereals/mulitgrain bread)
Honey
White Chicken
Liver Mush
Peanuts
Walnuts
Almonds
Orange Juice
Grape JuiceUnless its not pasteurized
Cheese
Salmon
Extra Virgin Olive OilCold pressed olive oil is much healthier
Minced Garlic
Apples
Brown Rice
Cocoa Powder
Whey Powder
Corn Chips
Hemp Nuts
Sunflower Seeds
The rest: Stuff I like but don't normally stock:
Lean Beef
Lamb
Sardines
Sesame Seeds (good in the Salmon salad)
Potatoes
Sweet Potatoes
Pumpkin Seeds
The bolded items are not healthy, sorry
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Rahz
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Quote:
Cannashroom said:
Milk is only healthy if it is hormone/antibiotic free, grass fed, and raw. I doubt that's what your drinking, but its what you want to be.
I would switch out most of your grains/rice with quinoa. It is high in protein and very high in essential minerals, great food.
I drink organic milk, pasteurized. Seems pretty healthy. Thanks for the tips, I'll try some quinoa. I don't understand why whole grains are getting such a bad rap. On paper, they're highly nutritious... and they make me feel good after eating them. A lot of people seem to think they're very healthy.
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Rahz
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The bolded items are not healthy, sorry
That's a pretty bold claim. Care to elaborate?
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Re: A healthy diet [Re: Rahz]
#10256508 - 04/29/09 02:07 PM (3 years, 27 days ago) |
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Salmon is one of the healthiest foods you can eat, please don't say it is unhealthy. Rich in anti-oxidants, protein, iodine, correct Omega-3s, salmon sashimi is incredible for you.
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This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and affection for a few persons nearest us.
Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole nature in its beauty.
Nobody is able to achieve this completely but striving for such achievement is, in itself, a part of the liberation and a foundation for inner security."
Albert Einstein
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Andre Nickatina
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Quote:
Cannashroom said:
Salmon is one of the healthiest foods you can eat, please don't say it is unhealthy. Rich in anti-oxidants, protein, iodine, correct Omega-3s, salmon sashimi is incredible for you.
When you cook it you kill everything healthy about it, if your eating it raw its healthy but my personal believe is all meat(including chicken and fish) rot in your stomach
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Re: A healthy diet [Re: Rahz]
#10257357 - 04/29/09 04:47 PM (3 years, 27 days ago) |
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Rahz said:
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The bolded items are not healthy, sorry
That's a pretty bold claim. Care to elaborate?
Well first off cooking anything kills everything healthy about it, second half the products you mentioned are packed full of starch and Meat isn't healthy
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Andre Nickatina said:
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Rahz said:
List 1: Foods that are always stocked at my home.
Eggs
Low Fat Milk
Whole Grain Cereals (oat, wheat, barley, etc.) (Bobs 7 and 8 grain cereals/mulitgrain bread)
Honey
White Chicken
Liver Mush
Peanuts
Walnuts
Almonds
Orange Juice
Grape JuiceUnless its not pasteurized
Cheese
Salmon
Extra Virgin Olive OilCold pressed olive oil is much healthier
Minced Garlic
Apples
Brown Rice
Cocoa Powder
Whey Powder
Corn Chips
Hemp Nuts
Sunflower Seeds
The rest: Stuff I like but don't normally stock:
Lean Beef
Lamb
Sardines
Sesame Seeds (good in the Salmon salad)
Potatoes
Sweet Potatoes
Pumpkin Seeds
The bolded items are not healthy, sorry
Thats a whole lotta bullshit right there dammit! Eggs, fantastic protein and mineral source. Whole grains and brown rice, pretty much essential. Salmon and sardines? Both incredibly healthy! And funniest of all, sweet potato actually ranks in studies as virtually the overall most nutritious vegetable...so sorry, as you say.
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Rahz
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Well first off cooking anything kills everything healthy about it
I don't think that is true. Cooking does destroy some of the vitamins, but it also helps the body digest food. It can be a win, or loose, depending on the food. Some things don't make sense to cook, but some things do. Take an egg for instance. If eaten raw, a body will uptake half the protein as it would if cooked. However, some vitamins would be destroyed in the process. Ideally, the egg whites should be cooked, and the yolks eaten raw, but I just toss it all in the blender raw. I suspect the same is true of some meat in regards to protein availability. Many vitamins do survive heat quite well, minerals will be either slightly more bio-available, or less bio-available. Potatoes have almost no calorie value until cooked. Any potential vitamin loss should be weighed against the benefit of have a product that is potentially more digestible. If digestion isn't enhanced, the food should be eaten raw. Trying different foods both cooked and uncooked, a person will develop preferences based on what best serves their body. Much better than cooking everything, or eating everything raw, IMO.
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half the products you mentioned are packed full of starch
Why is that a problem?
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Meat isn't healthy
Meat is very healthy. It has protein, a wide array of minerals, Vitamin B6, B12, Niacin, as well as both saturated and unsaturated fat, which is healthy in moderation.
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Edited by Rahz (04/29/09 09:16 PM)
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Re: A healthy diet [Re: mr_kite]
#10261441 - 04/30/09 08:35 AM (3 years, 27 days ago) |
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mr_kite said:
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Andre Nickatina said:
The bolded items are not healthy, sorry
Thats a whole lotta bullshit right there dammit! Eggs, fantastic protein and mineral source. Whole grains and brown rice, pretty much essential. Salmon and sardines? Both incredibly healthy! And funniest of all, sweet potato actually ranks in studies as virtually the overall most nutritious vegetable...so sorry, as you say.
Eggs arn't that great, more healthy then meat but why would you eat eggs when u can eat thousands of other healthier alternatives? Whole grains and brown rice are in no way essentail, its because of whole grains and brow rice we have so much disease now adays (Heres a little hint Grains/rice=Starch=mucus=disease). Sweet potatoes huh? Why the fuck would i eat somthing packed full of starch to get nutrients i can easily get in other places????? Not to mention you have to cook potatoes essentially killing everything healthy in it
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Re: A healthy diet [Re: Rahz]
#10261472 - 04/30/09 08:46 AM (3 years, 27 days ago) |
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Rahz said:
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Well first off cooking anything kills everything healthy about it
I don't think that is true. Cooking does destroy some of the vitamins, but it also helps the body digest food. It can be a win, or loose, depending on the food. Some things don't make sense to cook, but some things do.
Cooking destroys basically everything, atleast 80% of the nutrients. If somthing makes sense to cook then you shiuldn't be eating it
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half the products you mentioned are packed full of starch
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Why is that a problem?
Starch turns intor mucus in your body, mucus is harbors disease. Ever wonder why cancer and disease are so rampant now adays? Grains and rice thats why
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Meat isn't healthy
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Meat is very healthy. It has protein, a wide array of minerals, Vitamin B6, B12, Niacin, as well as both saturated and unsaturated fat, which is healthy in moderation.
Too bad all those vitamins are destroyed when you cook that piece of meat. Heres a little expirement if don't believe me, go feed a wild eat meating animal nothing but cooked meat and see how long it lives(it wont be long :P )
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I'm calling bullshit.
If you want me to take you seriously, give some sources on why "cooking food essentially kills everything healthy in it" for starters.
I have a friend into this whole raw food thing, and he certainly doesn't seem like the picture of health to me.
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Andre Nickatina
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Carcinogenic Compounds in Cooked Meat
Heterocyclic Amines
HCAs, a family of mutagenic compounds, are produced during the cooking process of many animal products, including chicken, beef, pork, and fish. Even meat that is cooked under normal grilling, frying, or oven-broiling may contain significant quantities of these mutagens.6,7,8 The longer and hotter the meat is cooked, the more these compounds form. In some studies, grilled chicken has formed higher concentrations of these cancer-causing substances than other types of cooked meat.9
The major classes of heterocyclic amines include amino-imidazo-quinolines, or amino-imidazo-quinoxalines (collectively called IQ-type compounds), and amino-imidazo-pyridines such as PhIP. IQ-type compounds and PhIP are formed from creatine or creatinine, specific amino acids, and sugars.10 All meats (including fish) are high in creatine, and HCA formation is greatest when cooking meat at high temperatures, as is most common with grilling or frying. Consumption of well-done meat and PhIP has been associated with increased risk of breast cancer and colon cancer, as discussed in greater detail below. A recent case-control study at the University of Utah that included 952 subjects with rectal cancer and 1205 controls found that men and women with the highest consumption of processed or well-cooked meat had an increased risk of rectal cancer.11
Have fun with the colon cancer and your healthy meat, by the way this is just one study from the WHO(which i personally dont like) Theres many many other reasons why meat is bad
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Re: A healthy diet [Re: Heffy]
#10261558 - 04/30/09 09:05 AM (3 years, 27 days ago) |
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Heffy said:
I'm calling bullshit.
If you want me to take you seriously, give some sources on why "cooking food essentially kills everything healthy in it" for starters.
Its common sense, you can kinda preserve some nutrients if you cook on low and not for that long but why would you do that when you can eat raw and get all benefits? If you want me to give you some kind of prove do your own research, i've already done it myself i could care less wether you believe me or not
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I have a friend into this whole raw food thing, and he certainly doesn't seem like the picture of health to me.
Wtf does that even mean? I'm on the diet and it changed my life, my bro's on the diet and hes as healthy as it gets and my mom cured all her bullshit with the diet. I've never ever met somone who ate raw who wasn't extremly healthy, just isn't possible my friend
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Andre Nickatina said:
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Heffy said:
I'm calling bullshit.
If you want me to take you seriously, give some sources on why "cooking food essentially kills everything healthy in it" for starters.
Its common sense, you can kinda preserve some nutrients if you cook on low and not for that long but why would you do that when you can eat raw and get all benefits? If you want me to give you some kind of prove do your own research, i've already done it myself i could care less wether you believe me or not
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I have a friend into this whole raw food thing, and he certainly doesn't seem like the picture of health to me.
Wtf does that even mean? I'm on the diet and it changed my life, my bro's on the diet and hes as healthy as it gets and my mom cured all her bullshit with the diet. I've never ever met somone who ate raw who wasn't extremly healthy, just isn't possible my friend
It doesn't mean a thing if someone says, "I'm on a raw diet." I believe in the healing power of raw foods, but you can be 100% raw and still not be healthy. I've seen it and experienced it. I've been 100% raw for almost a year and a half (changed my life too) and just because someone "eats raw" doesn't mean that they are doing it in a healthy way. The reason why...
There are LEAGUES of difference in body type and vitality between a natural hygienist fruit-focused raw fooder, and a high-fat, gourmet raw foodist. And all the styles of raw in between, and not every approach is healthy.
If the aspiring raw fooder isn't getting enough calories to sustain their lifestyle or they get the majority of their cals from fat (even raw fats), this person won't be healthy, whether they are raw or not.
The key is to get most of your cals from FRESH food, like fruit. The longest term raw foodists I know are fruitbats.
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And it's common sense in regards to cooked food vs raw. If I have to cook something to consume it, I take that as a clue I shouldn't consume it. Fire NEVER GIVES YOU MORE. It doesn't. Fire takes away, and consumes. Fire kills. Anything you cook, comes out less then when it started. Fire takes away.  It's just how it is. That's why raw foods provide such a jolt of life for most people. I know for me it was a whole new way of life and I will never go back. Raw, fresh, ripe and whole, all the way...that's pretty much my diet. Since we're sharing. I'm fruit-focused.
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