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 engineeredshroom
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 A Stroll through the bush. Huge mushie + odd mushy and others. ID help please :) 
#10224481 - 04/24/09 03:51 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Conical wonder.
Habitat:
Where does it grow? pic attached
Gills:
Color: black, not attached to stem
Stem:
Length: 5cm, diameter: 3-4mm, color: whitish silky colour, texture: abit slimy, I'm pretty sure its solid (it fell apart, cam apart in 3 bits lengthwise.
Cap:
Diameter: about 25mm, color: brownish at peak going to motley greyish, texture: slimy and abit rubbery.., conical, convex
Spore print color:
Under 60x magnification grey.
Bruising:
Doesnt bruise any noticeable colour.
Mottily Monster:
Habitat:
woody area.. on mulched ground etc
Gills:
Color: white, not attached to stem, gills, gills seem to run as one from start to finish.
Am giving dimensions of larger version of this mushy as i accidently threw out the stem of the younger one:
Stem:
Length: 8cm, diameter: 2cm, color: white, texture: smooth, solid, thick
Cap:
Diameter: 16.5cm, color: brown freckles in the middle, mottily white the rest, texture: very rough.. scaly almost, flat almost concave.
Spore print color:
White
Bruising:
No noticeable bruising on stem.. can't tell with cap.
Big white with a dress:
Habitat:
Where does it grow? Grass etc
Gills:
Color: rusty brown, Not attached to stem, gills
Stem:
Length:13.5cm, diameter: 1.4cm, color: white, texture: dryish smooth, hollow, thick. note the veil around the stem in the picture.. i dont know what this is called.. obviously it had a membrane over the gills when younger.
Cap:
Diameter: 9.5cm, color: white mostly, texture: fairly smooth, dryish.. basically like stem, younger ones have flat top then constant down slope. Older ones have much flatter caps
Spore print color:
Rusty brown.
Bruising:
no noticeable colour
Other information:
pics attached. The stem comes off very cleanly.. and has a flattened ball on the end whilst the cap has a perfect socket for it.
Brown Beast:
Habitat:
on its own near a tree.. on the ground
Gills:
No gills of so to speak.. just spongey looking pores? They are a golden browny colour (see pic).
Stem:
Length: 5cm all up including bit pulled from ground, diameter: from 2cm to 4cm at bulbous maximum, color: mottily black brown, texture: moist and smoothish, Solid i think however there is a hole near the bottom where it seems something has borred into it.
Cap:
Diameter: about 5.3cm, color: same as stem, texture: same as stem.
Spore print color:
I dont know how to spore print this
Bruising:
Dark brown
Other information:
This mushroom is very heavy for its size. It has an almost nice earthy smell it it.
               
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 Paraboloid
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Re: A Stroll through the bush. Huge mushie + odd mushy and others. ID help please :) [Re: engineeredshroom]
#10224508 - 04/24/09 04:03 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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1. coprinellus sp
2. chlorophyllum sp
3. possible an agaricus?
4. some sort of toxic bolete
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Re: A Stroll through the bush. Huge mushie + odd mushy and others. ID help please :) [Re: Paraboloid]
#10224600 - 04/24/09 04:42 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: A Stroll through the bush. Huge mushie + odd mushy and others. ID help please :) [Re: engineeredshroom]
#10224650 - 04/24/09 05:07 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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For number one I was thinking: Coprinellus micaceus
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Re: A Stroll through the bush. Huge mushie + odd mushy and others. ID help please :) [Re: engineeredshroom]
#10225017 - 04/24/09 07:36 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well you'd be on the right track, number one is Coprinus truncorum, which is the Australian version of micaceus, so yep.
Number 2 is Chlorophyllum, Macrolepiota or Leipota.. We don't get the 'Shaggy Parasol' (M. rhacodes/procera) itself in Australia (AFAIK) but a similar related sp. is Macrolepiota clelandii, so could be one of those.
Number 3 i'm not sure, rust brown print doesn't immediately fit anything that i can think of that looks like that so i'm not sure.
Number 4 is yeah some kind of toxic Boletus/Phlebopus spp.
P.S. When IDing in future, it helps to know what tree its growing under.. Pine trees fruit lots of big, poisonous and edible mushrooms (Agaricus, Amanita, Lactarius, Suillus etc.) Eucalypts fruit lots of smaller mushrooms (Cortinarius, Dermocybe, Tricholoma etc.)
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Re: A Stroll through the bush. Huge mushie + odd mushy and others. ID help please :) [Re: undergrounder]
#10226201 - 04/24/09 12:28 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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nice names.....
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Re: A Stroll through the bush. Huge mushie + odd mushy and others. ID help please :) [Re: johnnyblaze2316]
#10233426 - 04/25/09 07:52 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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hehe any ideas on this white fella? i know where heaps are.. if they are edible then yum!
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 Re: A Stroll through the bush. Huge mushie + odd mushy and others. ID help please :) [Re: engineeredshroom]
#10233473 - 04/25/09 08:05 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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engineeredshroom said:
hehe any ideas on this white fella? i know where heaps are.. if they are edible then yum!
As two posters already stated, it looks like a Chlorophyllum, or possibly a Macrolepiota species. Hard to tell which one, though I am pretty sure the only poisonous species is C. molybdites, aka "Green Gills". You can distinguish this species easily by taking a spore print. If the spores are white, then it is likely edible, but if the spores are green than it is C. molybdites.
However, I hesitate to advise eating them because some species of Amanita can look quite similar, and many are poisonous- some deadly. If you are new to mycology, the important distinctions may go unnoticed.
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Re: A Stroll through the bush. Huge mushie + odd mushy and others. ID help please :) [Re: CureCat]
#10234751 - 04/26/09 01:53 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yes there are heaps around but the toxicity of the Australian Macrolepiota is unknown. Even though it's related to a somewhat edible one overseas ourse could be poisonous. And there are so many truly deadly poisonous look-a-likes (which this still could be) that noone here in Australia risks it. Even experienced hunters stay away from the white-gilled mushrooms.
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Re: A Stroll through the bush. Huge mushie + odd mushy and others. ID help please :) [Re: undergrounder]
#10234801 - 04/26/09 02:18 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Good to know! Eventually someone will find out!
This past Winter Peter and I led a foray and this one hunter was really excited over the Amanita franchetii (might have been A. gemmata, I was pretty distracted), and Peter and I kept telling him not to eat them 'cause he certainly seemed like he intended to, and he was like "They're delicious! I eat them all the time!"
We figured he mistook them for a known edible, but he insisted that he ate THAT species and convinced us that he knew the difference... I meant to remember the species, because it is significant- edibility that is. I bet Peter remembers which one it was.
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Re: A Stroll through the bush. Huge mushie + odd mushy and others. ID help please :) [Re: CureCat]
#10234805 - 04/26/09 02:20 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Franchetii is good to eat, gemmata would be retarded.
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Paraboloid
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Re: A Stroll through the bush. Huge mushie + odd mushy and others. ID help please :) [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#10234832 - 04/26/09 02:32 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I stupidly ate a random Amanita sp once while trying to find some pantherina, looked just like a pantherina!
stupid mistake indeed, but it was pretty damn good actually, I ate it raw.
it was either Velosa, Franchetii, or Gemmata, but I did not experience any effects so I think it was one of the former, probably Franchetii!
I hope this guy does some research and learns his lesson the easy way, amanitas sketch me out these days and I wont even eat Coccora even when I find them by the hundreds and know 100% they are Coccora.
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With black clouds storming
I walk without umbrellas into these woods
Don't need em cause the mighty trees above will shelter me good
I'm eating berries from the bushes of the heavenly good
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Re: A Stroll through the bush. Huge mushie + odd mushy and others. ID help please :) [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#10234835 - 04/26/09 02:33 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Okay yeah, I remember the mushrooms looking like A. franchetii, but it seems like the guy was calling them something else, so I wasn't sure.
Where did you hear that they were edible? That was the first time I'd heard.
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Re: A Stroll through the bush. Huge mushie + odd mushy and others. ID help please :) [Re: Paraboloid]
#10234851 - 04/26/09 02:39 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
and I wont even eat Coccora even when I find them by the hundreds and know 100% they are Coccora.
Why not? Those are good. Its the west coast Caesareae, you are supposed to eat it.
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Where did you hear that they were edible? That was the first time I'd heard.
David Arora told me that.
At the time he wrote MD he didn't know that it was edible but he suspected that it was so he started eating it and feeding it to people and it did turn out to be edible and good. A lot of stuff from Amanita section Validae is edible, I don't know of anything toxic from that section but there may be some.
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Re: A Stroll through the bush. Huge mushie + odd mushy and others. ID help please :) [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#10234863 - 04/26/09 02:44 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I should have known. 
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Re: A Stroll through the bush. Huge mushie + odd mushy and others. ID help please :) [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#10234864 - 04/26/09 02:45 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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well I wont be in this area much longer but Ill let you know when and where if u want to walk the archery course up here and fill the back of a truck with them
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With black clouds storming
I walk without umbrellas into these woods
Don't need em cause the mighty trees above will shelter me good
I'm eating berries from the bushes of the heavenly good
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