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 tiptop
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 Few Cent FL ID- plz 
#10093030 - 04/02/09 08:15 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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K, Went on an actual hunt today, I'm happy to say I've at least found a pretty AMAZING spot for shroomies, As great as it is, It seems like it's also frequented by other shroomers, We came across at least 10-12+ cow patties flipped over. Some spots with as many as 5 patties tipped over within like a 10foot radius.
In the following ID request, I'm going to list 3 sightings, And I have questions about what I believe to be Panaeolus cinctulus I Kinda think I may have fakes, But also feel I might be wrong.
Here's what I found out in the pasture today, Nothing good for the most part, Might not be the right time, But none the less there was some shroom action going on in the area,
Resembles a puffball, I found this little one growing right next to a small bit of cow poop, I broke the outside open to examine the gills and they appeared to be an off white to brownish color, They could have been turning pink because I found another shroom that resembles this one , But much older, Here it is:
Those pink, Grapefruit like colored gills are what made me think the little one may just be a younger version, Looked like the gill color might have been changing to pinkish.
Heres what I believe to be the worthless "Ink Caps" I came across many of them growing on horse dung in my backyard, Out here some of the cow patties were absolutely LITTERED with these little guys. I found some more mature ones and they appeared to be ink caps for sure, They left a ink like ooze on my fingers as I touched it.
Growing Directly from cowpoop, Makes me feel good about the area, Makes me feel like its a confirmation that the cows aren't fed a grain that contains anti-fungi material.
We came across this not 5 minutes after we entered the area, It was the beginning of our walk, We had to walk an extra 30 or so minutes straight before we even got to the pastures I showed you guys pics of, That's the serious land, So it's nice to see some fungi action right at the entrance of the land.
I kind of want to relate this to the ink caps, It looks similar, But it's the first one I've come across that is so big, If it is indeed an ink cap. Not sure though, What do you guys think? It's questionable to me. But none the less, Doesn't look like any of the actives I had on my mind :P
It was growing very near a pile of cow dung. So close I'm actually quite surprised it didn't show up in the pic.
And Last but not least, We happened upon this guy as well, I have no idea what it is, But it still didn't resemble any shrooms pictures I had in my mind of magical shrooms that were gonna make my day and amazing trip 
It was growing directly from or directly under cow dung.
And Finally, We come to my questions about what I believe is Panaeolus cinctulus
Now, As of late, I have begun to think I may have fakes on my hands, Now PLEASE Correct me if you think / have good reason to believe I am WRONG.
I'm being lead in my mind, To believe I have fakes because: I have recently came across a small hunting guide specifically dedicated to hunting and finding real "Panaeolus cinctulus " And 2 things are sticking out to me that seem to be very wrong.
First off, I have yet to find a stem that resembles closely enough to be a POSITIVE ID.
That twisting of the stem is VERY distinct, And honestly, I haven't encountered that on.... ANY of the shrooms I've got out of my garden, However, I've noticed it VERY "SLIGHTLY" And pretty much only near the base of the stem. It's a very distinct feature that's undeniable, Now there might be something I don't know, Which is why I may be wrong.
Second, A simple tall tale feature of many active mushrooms, My shrooms are not bruising blue, AT ALL. This may be un-true, But I have honestly not witnessed any bluing me self, Yet. I've picked at least 15-20 of them. I did eat about 10 of them at 1 point though, So I at least know they won't make me sick or anything. But in this guide it mentions that, This species and shroom doesn't ALL WAYS Bruise Blue, But it's pretty dam common apparently, So it seems odd that I haven't seen any, And pics like these lead me to believe once again, That I may have fakes. Not sure though, So any Confirmation is GREATLY Appreciated.
I need not go on, Bluing in this species is very evident from all that I've read, But like I said, Not a 100% chance to blue, But I may be wrong
There is 1 thing that seems to be a CLEAR indication of fakes in this species, And it's when the gills drop below the cap. The Following are confirmed to be Fakes of this species, And you can clearly make out how the gills drop below the rim of the cap, None of my mushrooms have done this.
However, All of the mushrooms I've found and related to that species do looke EXACTLY like the mushroom on the left.
Which has been confirmed to be the Real Thing. And in that pic, You don't see any bluing or twisting of the stem, So this may all be for nothing, But none the less, Important to know, I may save my self a lot of time.
(And PS, One more little thing I was wondering, It's been HELL trying to get my Pan Subs to dry out... properly.. or at all, Any recommendations other than sun drying? Or should I just try to pick them as last minute as possible in hopes of being able to eash freshies? I've lost at least 5+ caps due to overnight rotting and maggots.) The rest are sure to follow >_> )
THANK YOU ALL FOR TAKING TIME TO VIEW MY POST!! You don't even know how greatly appreciated feedback is, HAPPY SHROOMING!! 
Edited by tiptop (04/02/09 12:11 PM)
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mushman18
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Re: Few Cent FL ID- plz [Re: tiptop]
#10093047 - 04/02/09 08:19 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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wow that is a beautiful spot you found there man
nice finds by the way
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tiptop
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Re: Few Cent FL ID- plz [Re: mushman18]
#10093121 - 04/02/09 08:35 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks Man!
Now as far as my question about the possible fakes, I'm constantly being thrown around left and right, This is the guide I've referred too for tips. I've found only those 2 tips that suggest I MAY have fakes, But at the same time I've also come across like 5 tips that suggest I defiantly have real ones. Meh....... I let my mind get the best of me >_< consider I've all ready ate at least 8 of these guys with no negative side effects (got a little bubbly body feeling, Kinda giggly) but that may have just been anticipation and the bowl I smoked 30min or so after I ate them, They were fresh.
http://www.impakt.net/~tyler/subbs/
I am confused, Apparently the shroom on the right is "bluing slightly" Now, I didn't take this as bluing, Mainly because of the brown back round and overall color of the stem, But I do believe I've seen some coloration on my shrooms, Just like the one in the right of this pic,
I'm confused because this pic and description lead me to believe, at first, that the shroom on the left was the confirmed real, and the one on the right being the fake, but now i'm not sure if it means they are both real! consider it pointed on slight bluing as an indicator, of the mushroom on the right.
and here's a few pics of todays pick.
BIG EDIT*
I take back what I said about none of my finds exhibiting the "Stem Twisting" All Though I've found pretty much none of them with it for the most part, A majority of them seem to have the normal straight stem, no twisting pattern noticeable, I have just come across one that has very noticeable twisting feature, The stem twists upwards and around the entire stem, nearly to the top.
So once again, I'm leaning towards they aren't fake. Lmao. MEH!!!
AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR ALL FEED BACK, GREATLY APPRECIATED!
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   ah HAH, Victory Joint! 
Edited by tiptop (04/02/09 08:42 AM)
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shroomgatherer
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Re: Few Cent FL ID- plz [Re: tiptop]
#10093259 - 04/02/09 09:15 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I was there this past Sunday. I know EXACTLY where you were. Yes, it used to be a GREAT spot to get a sh!t-ton of shrooms. I noticed flipped over patties when I was there on Sunday. Some dumb-azz redneck(s) don't know WTF they are doing I guess.
I don't like posting pictures of locations but since you already did - Plus the fact that the patties are flipped, plus the fact that the whole area was underwater for a while means there won't be any shrooms for a while. These are my pictures from Sunday.
It is truly one of the MOST beautiful areas in the world to me.
good fukkin thing I have more spots
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Long live Josh Todd, the prophet.
May his words be remembered:
"take thy medicine you filthy swine and you'll see that the world is in fact divine"
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"Let us declare nature to be legitimate. All plants should be declared legal, and all animals for that matter. The notion of illegal plants and animals is obnoxious and ridiculous."
Edited by shroomgatherer (04/02/09 12:02 PM)
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shroomgatherer
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Re: Few Cent FL ID- plz [Re: tiptop]
#10093442 - 04/02/09 10:01 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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This is my post from Sunday http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10072465/page/2 - see how I did not put any landscapes or backgrounds in the pictures that I posted. As you get older and wiser you will learn NOT to include landmarks, tree lines, anything that can give away a location. I have been hunting there for years and last year was the 1st year I noticed kicked over patties. Please take close up shots or crop your image or blurr the backgrounds in future posts. PLEASE.
Thanks
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Long live Josh Todd, the prophet.
May his words be remembered:
"take thy medicine you filthy swine and you'll see that the world is in fact divine"
and
"Let us declare nature to be legitimate. All plants should be declared legal, and all animals for that matter. The notion of illegal plants and animals is obnoxious and ridiculous."
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Re: Few Cent FL ID- plz [Re: tiptop]
#10093580 - 04/02/09 10:28 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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wow that bluing stem reaction is awesome
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shroomgatherer
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Quote:
CptnGarden said:
wow that bluing stem reaction is awesome
hahaha...bwaaaaaaaaa
Hey tiptop,
Please edit your post and pull the landscape pics off. Then I'll edit mine as well.
Thanks
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Long live Josh Todd, the prophet.
May his words be remembered:
"take thy medicine you filthy swine and you'll see that the world is in fact divine"
and
"Let us declare nature to be legitimate. All plants should be declared legal, and all animals for that matter. The notion of illegal plants and animals is obnoxious and ridiculous."
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Re: Few Cent FL ID- plz [Re: tiptop]
#10093630 - 04/02/09 10:35 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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That is a beautiful location. Damn shame there's patty flippers moving in.
You need not worry about flipping pattys to find mushrooms. Only worthless, ignorant bastards flip pattys. It's an urban myth that psychoactive mushrooms grow under the pies.
As for your suspected subbs. I'm a little confused. The picture with the red arrows, and ones with bluing stems is not yours correct?
I'm going off the mushroom pictures toward the end of your post. Mushrooms that look like that and print black are Panaeolus cinctulus (subbalteatus).
I don't have much experience drying mushrooms in humid climates, but you should also implement moving air into your drying, and I believe Captn Garden said packs of epson salt work well to remove moisture from shrooms.
Good luck, hope that helps.
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tiptop
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Agreed 110% shroomgather. Foolish mistake.
At least the florida area is huge, Theres more than 1 wetland around FL, thankfully. But point very well taken man!
Thanks again for the feedback, another fun post under my belt and some more knowledge gained, All ways a plus.
And thanks for the tips landsnorkler.
And as for the pan cinc comment, Yeah Agreed, It was a mass of thought and confusion all sprayed out into text format, Haha. Best not to mind most of it! lmao.
But yeah, Only the close ups are actually my finds, The one with the intense bluing and the side by side close up comparing one to another, Are just pics I found on the web showing identification trates of this species, again, thanks for feedback guys.
im out for now to go look at some mushrooms my mom came across in the front yard. Pics inc soon! haha.
happy shroomin!
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ah HAH, Victory Joint!
Edited by tiptop (04/02/09 11:49 AM)
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Re: Few Cent FL ID- plz [Re: tiptop]
#10094116 - 04/02/09 11:55 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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snorkler....those pics are from a subb hunting guide somewhere online .......
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shroomgatherer
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Re: Few Cent FL ID- plz [Re: tiptop]
#10094178 - 04/02/09 12:08 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
tiptop said:
Agreed 110% shroomgather. Foolish mistake.
At least the florida area is huge, Theres more than 1 wetland around FL, thankfully. But point very well taken man!
Thanks again for the feedback, another fun post under my belt and some more knowledge gained, All ways a plus.
THANK YOU tiptop!!!!
It is an important lesson...as for the pan cinc's you have they look like the right ones to me...although landsnorkeler and others are experts on those not me...plus you said you already tried some and had a body high...so you are on the right track with those...like LS said it takes 25+ more for a real ride.
peace
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Long live Josh Todd, the prophet.
May his words be remembered:
"take thy medicine you filthy swine and you'll see that the world is in fact divine"
and
"Let us declare nature to be legitimate. All plants should be declared legal, and all animals for that matter. The notion of illegal plants and animals is obnoxious and ridiculous."
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air dry, then add packs of MgSO4 to an airtight container with them
Epsom Salts are MgSO4 + 7H2O, if you dry them in an oven on full blast for an hour or so, the water boils out and its just MgSO4, then when u put them in an airtight container with the magnesium sulfite, it will pull moisture out of the mushrooms to become MgSO4 + 7H2O again.
magnesium sulfite is also safe to consume, unlike silica and damprid.
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