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    #10001065 - 03/19/09 03:11 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)









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Re: Cactus ID [Re: weiliiiiiii]
    #10001076 - 03/19/09 03:12 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Looks to me like it could be a Trichocereus Peruvianus, but I'm not quite sure.


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Re: Cactus ID [Re: weiliiiiiii]
    #10001120 - 03/19/09 03:18 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I'm going to agree on the T. Peruvianus.


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Re: Cactus ID [Re: TheManWithTheHat]
    #10001150 - 03/19/09 03:23 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

The aeroles don't look like Peruvianus to me, maybe chiloensis, but even that i'm unsure of. Was it sold to you as a peruvianus? Judging by pics I'm looking at it may be T. Peruvianus, although something about the rib pattern/notches doesn't look right.


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Re: Cactus ID [Re: Cactusdan]
    #10001312 - 03/19/09 03:46 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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The aeroles don't look like Peruvianus to me, maybe chiloensis, but even that i'm unsure of. Was it sold to you as a peruvianus? Judging by pics I'm looking at it may be T. Peruvianus, although something about the rib pattern/notches doesn't look right.




yeah, looking at that again, the aureoles do look different.


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Re: Cactus ID [Re: Cactusdan]
    #10001328 - 03/19/09 03:48 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

i called my buddy who gave it to me and he said he couldn't remember what it was.

its ribs are swollen because it was getting to much water before i got it, it does have V shaped notches above the aureoles but like you said bloodnashes something looks wrong for Peruvian.

the aureoles are more gray looking than they appear in the pics


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Re: Cactus ID [Re: weiliiiiiii]
    #10001344 - 03/19/09 03:51 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

here is a pic of a T. peruvianus i found for comparison.



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Re: Cactus ID [Re: weiliiiiiii]
    #10001405 - 03/19/09 03:59 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I guess it could be some peruvianus mixed with something else :shrug:


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Re: Cactus ID [Re: Jade]
    #10001417 - 03/19/09 04:00 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Very possible, it seems like getting a clear ID is getting muddier and muddier due to cross breeding and hybrids.


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Re: Cactus ID [Re: Prof. Astro]
    #10001499 - 03/19/09 04:10 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Very possible, it seems like getting a clear ID is getting muddier and muddier due to cross breeding and hybrids.




Check out sum of the info on mutt peruvians

http://sacredcactus.com/peruvian_torch.htm


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Re: Cactus ID [Re: weiliiiiiii]
    #10001532 - 03/19/09 04:15 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Peruvian torch gets its name from the spines looking like flames. This is most notable on the new, top growth. The 2nd pic weiliiiiii posted show that. THAT ONE is a PT. The one in the first post is not. Looks hybrid. The bone colored spines say cuzco IMO.

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Re: Cactus ID [Re: ethnoguy]
    #10002117 - 03/19/09 05:36 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I took sum more pics in natural light, after further examination i have found several "flame" colored spines near the base of the cactus and the new ones are deff that color, i think its a mutt.

check it out...









aureoles...





and these are near the base...



and a good page about trichos and interbreeding...

http://www.huachuma-valley.com/page8/page8.html


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Re: Cactus ID [Re: weiliiiiiii]
    #10002122 - 03/19/09 05:36 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

....It's somewhere in the T. cuzco mystery pool, definately.  I just dont know what name to give it.


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Re: Cactus ID [Re: weiliiiiiii]
    #10002183 - 03/19/09 05:48 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Ok, the answer to the riddle is, you did correctly ID the plant. But the original ID is wrong. That belongs in the cuzco family, not the peruvianus family.



I'm kinda torn on the idea of cactus taxonomy...  do we label them by what they're sold as originally?  Or give them new names as we go? :p


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Re: Cactus ID [Re: HarveyWalbanger]
    #10002500 - 03/19/09 06:40 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

im no cacti expert, hence the thread title  :dumblol: :lol:

ima leaf and mushroom kinda guy :wink:


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Re: Cactus ID [Re: weiliiiiiii]
    #10003192 - 03/19/09 08:33 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

looks like Stetsonia coryne (toothpick cactus)


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Re: Cactus ID [Re: preschooler]
    #10003324 - 03/19/09 08:53 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)



sorry for the double... wal-mart puts these out in the summer time. Great cactus and grows like crazy.
I would show you the growth but mine got stollen  :boo:


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Re: Cactus ID [Re: preschooler]
    #10003360 - 03/19/09 08:58 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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sorry for the double... wal-mart puts these out in the summer time. Great cactus and grows like crazy.
I would show you the growth but mine got stollen  :boo:




I bet that kid was pissed when they didn't trip..


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Re: Cactus ID [Re: Brainiac]
    #10003443 - 03/19/09 09:10 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I propose the name T. WhattheFii


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Re: Cactus ID [Re: Brainiac]
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