atransienthowl
(Stranger)
05/09/08 11:05 AM
Hi everyone. I am new and I have an urgent question and concern

So,I have been smoking weed for about 4 years now and lately I have been noticing something very very odd.

People treat me completely differently when I am high that when I am sober. I'll be sober and just havin a good time laughin with people and hten once I get high, it starts seeming like everyone else is on a different page than I am. Its like they have this vibe thats saying "you are not being cool right now man", or "this guy is fake or being fake", or "we want you to leave".

It really confuses me and to be honest, its kind of damaging to me, to my sense of self. I feel like nowadays everytime I get high I start thinking way to much and people will look at me so completely differently, but then again once I get high I notice I get quieter and nearly everything and anything I say i don't get a response to. Its almost like everyone just turns their back on me or something simultaneously. I remember a specific incident where these two guys were conversing during a smash bros game and i was in the middle of both of them and then they leaned back away from my field of view, peripheral you could say, and they slapped hands and one said "way to BE, man way to BE" and he like put emphasis on the "be" word almost trying to convey a message to me like I'm being really not cool or fake or something!

The thing is guys, I know that its not the people, I know it is me, BUT I DON"T UNDERSTAND WHY. I can hang out with anyone and be like the coolest, most chillest most fun guy to be aorund, and then once I get a little high from the herb its almost like EVERYOONE in the room will turn their back on me. and whats wierd is I never see this happen to any other person i've ever met smoking weed. I don't get it, i really dont

I need help really badly because i dont want to live my life like this anymore, please anything you guys can add to this is appreciated. and has anyone been in or currently in a similar situation? thank you for your replys


Atheist
(©®ÂZŸ FøøL)
05/09/08 11:09 AM
Re: Hi everyone. I am new and I have an urgent question and concern

wow that sounds scary. why dont you just stop getting high?

Atheist
(©®ÂZŸ FøøL)
05/09/08 11:10 AM
Re: Hi everyone. I am new and I have an urgent question and concern

how old are you?

gluke bastid
(Stinky Bum)
05/09/08 11:11 AM
Re: Hi everyone. I am new and I have an urgent question and concern

Seems pretty obvious to me that smoking weed makes you socially paranoid. No big suprise there, because the same thing happens to EVERYONE who smokes weed. It's part of what marijuana does.

Dude its all in your head. You can either keep getting high with people and learn to deal with the paranoia, only start getting high alone so the presence of other people won't fuck with your head, or stop getting stoned.

The main thing to remember is that its the drug that is doing this, and it happens to everyone else who smokes weed too. It is why I gave the shit up after years.


WhiskeyClone
(Below the bottomline)
05/09/08 11:13 AM
Re: Hi everyone. I am new and I have an urgent question and concern

I know that I'm more self-conscious when I'm high, and this makes me give off a more suspicious vibe that I believe others can sense. Do you feel comfortable in social situations when you're high? From your example it sounds like you get a bit paranoid.

People are quite keen at detecting the mindset of others, even if they don't know they're doing it. I suspect people pick up on your paranoia and reciprocate it. I'm sure it happens all the time.


Xeluc
(Dairy QueenGrill Master)
05/09/08 11:13 AM
Re: Hi everyone. I am new and I have an urgent question and concern

It sounds like your friends don't smoke. And that's how a lot of those kind of people act. you seem to me that your in highschool still too, although I don't really know. I remember back in high school I was at a party where everyone was drinking. I didn't feel like drinking so I got high. I entered the room and everyone treated me like an alien. a girl was like "So Chris, how are YOU feeling?" I was pissed that she was being so immature. People acted like they were better than me.

Point is, you either need to stop smoking around these people or find new friends.


niteowl
(GrandPaw)
05/09/08 11:14 AM
Re: Hi everyone. I am new and I have an urgent question and concern

I have never gotten any kind of paranoia from weed.

Must be just me


Mojo
(Stranger)
05/09/08 11:16 AM
Re: Hi everyone. I am new and I have an urgent question and concern

Quote:

Atheist said:
why dont you just stop getting high?






TheHappyHippies
(Dick Hippie)
05/09/08 11:18 AM
Re: Hi everyone. I am new and I have an urgent question and concern

Quote:

gluke bastid said:
Seems pretty obvious to me that smoking weed makes you socially paranoid. No big suprise there, because the same thing happens to EVERYONE who smokes weed. It's part of what marijuana does.

Dude its all in your head. You can either keep getting high with people and learn to deal with the paranoia, only start getting high alone so the presence of other people won't fuck with your head, or stop getting stoned.

The main thing to remember is that its the drug that is doing this, and it happens to everyone else who smokes weed too. It is why I gave the shit up after years.




I beg to differ, smoking makes me socially confident, though I am sure I am part of the minority on this issue. You are probably correct in this case though.

My advice is for you to smoke alone for a while, or with folks who aren't judgmental. I remember when I got high the first few times, I was like "Wow, I'm dumb" then I realized, I was just with a group of people who were on different wavelengths, and had different priorities in life. Sometimes when I'm high, I just want to talk about stupid shit, other times I want to have a deep philosophical discussion. Surround yourself with people who can understand ya.

and yeah, how old are you?

~Jane


Stizzle
()
05/09/08 11:18 AM
Re: Hi everyone. I am new and I have an urgent question and concern

Quote:

gluke bastid said:
Seems pretty obvious to me that smoking weed makes you socially paranoid. No big suprise there, because the same thing happens to EVERYONE who smokes weed. It's part of what marijuana does.




I don't think that's true. I feel just as comfortable in a social situation high or not.


Mojo
(Stranger)
05/09/08 11:21 AM
Re: Hi everyone. I am new and I have an urgent question and concern

It completely depends on the individual, and even a bit on what exactly he's smoking.

publicenemy1
(Dead Head,Philospher/Pyschonaut,Heady Herbal Man)
05/09/08 11:23 AM
Re: Hi everyone. I am new and I have an urgent question and concern

the easiest thing to do is to quit smoking. but if you choose not to, you got to realize that any confusion you have concerning your friends and you "being cool" is all made up in your mind and its a waste to over analyze so much. just chill...

MrReedz
(Stranger)
05/09/08 11:24 AM
Re: Hi everyone. I am new and I have an urgent question and concern

It is a simple answer to a complex situation!?

(1) Marijuana: You need to seriously take a break from smoking.

(2) You need to look at yourself (i.e Are YOU happy with yourself?!) You said yourself "I know it is me, BUT I DON"T UNDERSTAND WHY" It is possible that you are so unhappy where you are in life (i.e. with yourself, environment, financially) that you are creating this paranoid situation where everyone is against you that onlt surfaces during smoking.

or does it?
Have you EVER had that same feeling while alone?
Is it always there but, not very strong while sober?
is it with certain friends?

Also, what is your age?


gizagaza
()
05/09/08 11:38 AM
Re: Hi everyone. I am new and I have an urgent question and concern

Quote:

Xeluc said:
I entered the room and everyone treated me like an alien. a girl was like "So Chris, how are YOU feeling?" I was pissed that she was being so immature. People acted like they were better than me.





Yea dude, that pisses me off so much when people do that when you're high, If i'm like the only ones who's blazed, i feel like everyone is keepin an eye on me, waiting for me to do somethin stupid, or eat a whole bag of cheetos so they can start laughing


atransienthowl
(Stranger)
05/09/08 11:53 AM
Re: Hi everyone. I am new and I have an urgent question and concern

OK you guys have helped me so incredibly much omg i think my prayers are being answered.

ok before i answer questions I just want it to be known that I am perfectly fine with myslef and where I am at in life. I am an 18 year old college student btw....When I used to smoke back in highschool and even during the summer, whenever I got high I was TOTALLY cool with it and whoever I was around I used to smoke and go to school high and I would skate high with friends and be aound people that were sober and be compeltely blazed. Its so wierd to me you guys its like...ok so I'll be at a party setting right, and Ill be buzzing off some brews or whatever(btw I have absolutely NO problem with this and drinking, drinking is fun as hell!) and then people will be smoking weed right. SO ill be thinking to myself "ok if I hit this weed will Is tart acting all sketch as fuck like I have sometimes in the past or will I be cool?" and I wont even really answer the question and Ill just take the hit, a few sometimes. then like 2 3 4 5 minutes later after the hit, Ill get SOOOO caught up in my head and thinking about what I'm doing and how im projecting myself, and if I seem like im being sketchy or not, and if people are picking up on what Im thinking about them and myself. then its like this downward spiral from there and one by one Ill liek feel people turning their backs on me.

Its like, I am a completely different person when I get high now you guys. People love me when I am sober I feel like i am such a good guy and just outgoing and fun to be around when I am sober, but when i take a hit of weed around people it slike a whole new me comes out, a terrible me. This NEVER used to happen to me when I was younger, from 14 all the wya up to being 18 in the summer and then it started happening to me. But whats really wierd is it wont happen to me EVERYSINGLETIME. like 8/10 if I get high around a bunch of other people, especially people I dont know that well, everyone just like turns their back on me and sometimes I will even be listening to people talk and they will be talking about this crazy ass scenarios that dont make sense to me and like eveyrone will get it except me and then Ill be thinking to myself "is this like a code language for talking shit about me right now?" and even sometimes people will say things refering to me, that are negative and I know they are saying them to me but i don't know how to respond because the truth i, the honest truth is, is, I know I am being sketchy, I can feel it in my heart and every cell in my body.

I am determined to get answer btw you guys, so my writing might be really all over the place and confused but im typing really fast and just wan tot get this out.

mr reedz you have very good questions i will attempt to answer them.


your first question "It is possible that you are so unhappy where you are in life (i.e. with yourself, environment, financially) that you are creating this paranoid situation where everyone is against you that onlt surfaces during smoking.

asnwer: thie thing is, I LOVE LIFE. I consider truly myself to be a great person. I am the type of person who is always trying to progress in life, whether its giving wise words to people, learning all I can about myself, other people adn this world, getting better at basketball, skateboarding, lifting wieghts other physical activities etc. I pray at night, I am very into dreams and lucid dreaming and I consider myself to be a very unique person, but htne, its like when I smoke weed, Ill get indescribably into my head and wierd thoughts will come up about how I am acting even when I am high by myself, and this is all hapening recently. And actually, i KNOW these irrational thoughts only come up when I smoke.

even when I am alone i get aught up in my head wheter with people or not, but the feeligns are WAY more intense and severe while around other people.

i am thinking, I just need to stop smoking aorund people. In the past when this has happened to me, ill think to myself "man you need to stop smoking, if you want this sudden sketchy act to stop and keep people from thinking you are some wierd fake guy". but then ill just override that emotion and get high again by myself or around other people and shit will be cool.

i guess whats going on is I know deep within myself I just need to stop but I guess im just looking for some answers as to why this happpens to me ONLY when I smoke weed, and reassurance from other people I guess becuase this isn't something i feel liek I could just ask a friend or csomeone close without making them think about me completely differently, ya know?

all replys are exteremly appreciated you guys


WhiskeyClone
(Below the bottomline)
05/09/08 12:06 PM
Re: Hi everyone. I am new and I have an urgent question and concern

In my experience, marijuana makes you think too much, and thinking too much makes every situation seem more problematic than it is.

ThirdEyeOpening
(Lost In My Head)
05/09/08 12:11 PM
Re: Hi everyone. I am new and I have an urgent question and concern

I dont know if this will come as any help to you, but when i was quite a bit younger i used to get really sketched around people when i was high, even friends that got high with me. Id be paranoid and use eye drops, take sowers brush my teeth, breath mints, calone, like way over the top paranoid.

A few years ago tho, when i started college, i started to relax, and around that time whas when i got into mushrooms. Now im not saying you have to trip to lose your paranoia, but for me it just came as a side effect.

I was always a somewhat introverted person, only saying stuff that i had a strong opinion on. Im not one to shoot the shit by talking, i find it quite pointless. So with that and the paranoia i was, and still am a quiet guy. But along the lines of my trips, i began not to care.

Nowadays, ill walk around, and do all my errands, with severely blood shot eyes, and strong aroma. It just doesn't matter. But i never, NEVER carry anything when im like that, for obvious reasons. All of my friends and family respect me for who i am, and what i have accomplished in life. Everyone else can fuck themselves.

If the crowd you hang with doesn't respect you for who you are, what you have done, and what you intend to do, id find new friends. I have had friends who had problems with my pot use, but, they got over it when they saw it had no effect on my day to day life. Im still a contributing member for the most part, and that all that matters.

Best of luck, and i hope this helped. Good vibes.


aiyobro
(moochster)
05/09/08 12:20 PM
Re: Hi everyone. I am new and I have an urgent question and concern

face your fears

change em into something GOOD

be a leader


Akira
(CosmicConsciousness)
05/09/08 12:21 PM
Re: Hi everyone. I am new and I have an urgent question and concern

Quote:

atransienthowl said:
So,I have been smoking weed for about 4 years now and lately I have been noticing something very very odd.

People treat me completely differently when I am high that when I am sober. I'll be sober and just havin a good time laughin with people and hten once I get high, it starts seeming like everyone else is on a different page than I am. Its like they have this vibe thats saying "you are not being cool right now man", or "this guy is fake or being fake", or "we want you to leave".

It really confuses me and to be honest, its kind of damaging to me, to my sense of self. I feel like nowadays everytime I get high I start thinking way to much and people will look at me so completely differently, but then again once I get high I notice I get quieter and nearly everything and anything I say i don't get a response to. Its almost like everyone just turns their back on me or something simultaneously. I remember a specific incident where these two guys were conversing during a smash bros game and i was in the middle of both of them and then they leaned back away from my field of view, peripheral you could say, and they slapped hands and one said "way to BE, man way to BE" and he like put emphasis on the "be" word almost trying to convey a message to me like I'm being really not cool or fake or something!

The thing is guys, I know that its not the people, I know it is me, BUT I DON"T UNDERSTAND WHY. I can hang out with anyone and be like the coolest, most chillest most fun guy to be aorund, and then once I get a little high from the herb its almost like EVERYOONE in the room will turn their back on me. and whats wierd is I never see this happen to any other person i've ever met smoking weed. I don't get it, i really dont

I need help really badly because i dont want to live my life like this anymore, please anything you guys can add to this is appreciated. and has anyone been in or currently in a similar situation? thank you for your replys





SIMPLE: In quantum terms, you create your reality.

When you smoke it is obvious to me that you become self conscious, this happens to many (many many many many many)people. Once you become self conscious your confidence level decreases. When you are around people, they can subconsciously read this energy that you are projecting. Through your eyes, through your body gestures, through your voice, etc, etc. And thus people subconsciously react to the energy you feed them.

The Dog Whisperer brings up the same point to dog owners that he helps. Many people try to scold their dogs but their internal confidense is not that of an alpha, of a pack leader. The dog senses this and takes your commands with a piece of grain. But once he teaches people to change their internal attitudes, the dog feels this dominant energy and becomes submissive.

Option 1: Stop Smoking
Option 2: Stop Smoking With People
Option 3: Try to work through it (This option might actually decrease your confidence level.


Bandersnatch
(Frumious)
05/09/08 12:27 PM
Re: Hi everyone. I am new and I have an urgent question and concern

Your paranoia around other people is what is causing these feelings. It's easy to get caught up in your own head when you're high.

Just chill out and quit smoking around other people for now.

Unless you're actually doing something sketch, you should be fine. I've gone out to eat with my parents high as a kite and they've never noticed.

It's in your head, dude.


ThirdEyeOpening
(Lost In My Head)
05/09/08 12:46 PM
Re: Hi everyone. I am new and I have an urgent question and concern

I agree fully, only time i have ever really been called out is by my parents, but thats because i rarely use eye drops anymore, not because of behavior.

My dad will drop his head and look at my eyes,and ask

"are you high?"

"huh, oh yea, lol"

"ok, just dont eat everything from the fridge."

"haha, ok, i wont"


Innominate
()
05/09/08 12:51 PM
Re: Hi everyone. I am new and I have an urgent question and concern

Maybe you act like a real dumbass when you're high. Either A) get high alone, or B) find new friends.

MrReedz
(Stranger)
05/09/08 01:20 PM
Re: Hi everyone. I am new and I have an urgent question and concern

Glad to hear you have your life on track! Then there are two options left.

(1) You are actually being sketchy
(2) You are lost in thought and paranoia.

Number two is the most likely one, especially if none of your friends have actually said anything about it while you are sober.

It is true Marijuana will bring on paranoid thoughts which makes your situation difficult. You can relax in the thought that this is all in your head. If your friends where getting the sketchy vibe from you would they continue to be around you while you were high?! Probably not.

You say that you KNOW you should stop smoking. Did that feeling and this feeling of paranoia start around the same time? If so, then we can figure that these two things are connected. If you KNOW you should stop and you do not then that is the beginning of a problem.

Nothing wrong with recreational Marijuana usage. However, when you feel like you cannot function normally during the day without being high (as I am sure many do) you may develop a dependency on the the effects.

Whether anyone agrees with me or not, there is a line between use and abuse.


Akira
(CosmicConsciousness)
05/09/08 03:11 PM
Re: Hi everyone. I am new and I have an urgent question and concern

Why do people keep translating this guys situation with a simple paranoia of other knowing if you are high or not?


This is not the case. Its a psychological disorder. He simply gets less confident while high, and people subconsciously read this energy and react to it.

This is a classic case, it has happened to me as a teenager. You talk and people kinda dont response as they do when sober, you kinda get ignored. Why? You speak with less confidence, very self consciously, and people react to this.

The same way a dog knows when you are afraid or confident, this is a common piece of knowledge everyone says about dogs. Well this works as well with humans, we are also animals, we react off of eachothers internal energy.

In dog lingo, when you (the author of this post) are high you become more submisive. The dogs in the pack (your friends) subconsciously sense this and react accordingly.


atransienthowl
(Stranger)
05/09/08 03:46 PM
Re: Hi everyone. I am new and I have an urgent question and concern

! Words cannot express how truly grateful I am for your guys' responses. I feel like I have just handled and resolved a critical aspect of my life. I am incredibly appreciative for what all of you had to say especially Akira and Mr. Reedz. Your words have trul;y stuck with me and you guys have nailed my situation spot on, and I realize now, that it is a fact(now that im reflecting on it) that when I get high nowadays I become less confident and more submissive and people can subconsciously sense my projection of those feelings, and they act accordingly. seriously words can't express how thankful I am right now and I feel I can walk on through life now, with new knowledge about myself and what type of person I, for whatever reason, become when I get high.


I have come to the conclusion that I am going to give mary jane a break for a good long while now, and just drink and shroom every once in a while. Because I have smoked weed hundreds of times in the past and had no problem with it, I feel that in the future me adn MJ will be able to reunite again one day, when the time is right, and not have to deal with the paranoid thoughts and inclination to become less confident and more submissive.

I feel very proud of myself for taking charge of my situation and getting what I wanted, some answers to my crippling situation. You guys heped me out tremendously and I can honestly say I don't think I could've done it withiout you guys. I hope you guys will recieve some very good karma for what you've done for me today.

i don't know what else to say but thank you all again, and may god bless you all


TheFakeSunRa
()
05/09/08 05:25 PM
Re: Hi everyone. I am new and I have an urgent question and concern

Your first post almost seems like on of those Above the Influence ads on MTV.

fantasylndvictm
(yup)
05/09/08 10:12 PM
Re: Hi everyone. I am new and I have an urgent question and concern

I havent read all this thread but all I have to say is weed makes me quiet period I'm so lame when I'm high I don't want to talk about anything or do anything. It kinda sucks but Ireally enjoy being high idk oh well.

MrReedz
(Stranger)
05/09/08 10:52 PM
Re: Hi everyone. I am new and I have an urgent question and concern

Quote:

! Words cannot express how truly grateful I am for your guys' responses. I feel like I have just handled and resolved a critical aspect of my life. I am incredibly appreciative for what all of you had to say especially Akira and Mr. Reedz. Your words have trul;y stuck with me and you guys have nailed my situation spot on, and I realize now, that it is a fact(now that im reflecting on it) that when I get high nowadays I become less confident and more submissive and people can subconsciously sense my projection of those feelings, and they act accordingly. seriously words can't express how thankful I am right now and I feel I can walk on through life now, with new knowledge about myself and what type of person I, for whatever reason, become when I get high.


I have come to the conclusion that I am going to give mary jane a break for a good long while now, and just drink and shroom every once in a while. Because I have smoked weed hundreds of times in the past and had no problem with it, I feel that in the future me adn MJ will be able to reunite again one day, when the time is right, and not have to deal with the paranoid thoughts and inclination to become less confident and more submissive.

I feel very proud of myself for taking charge of my situation and getting what I wanted, some answers to my crippling situation. You guys heped me out tremendously and I can honestly say I don't think I could've done it withiout you guys. I hope you guys will recieve some very good karma for what you've done for me today.

i don't know what else to say but thank you all again, and may god bless you all




Your welcome I am glad I was able to help the situation.
Take life as it comes and remember to smile