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93 I have experience working with some of the Goetia. Do not mess with demons until you know you can protect yourself and banish them! It was at least 3 years of near-daily ritual and meditation before I tried evokation. Without a doubt, the best useage of them is to help you clear the air, sort of speaking, in order to find useful info in resolving a difficult situation, or to have them reveal some of their knowledge. You can also use a demon to help you directly for something. However, with this, things have a tendency to not occur in the way or capacity desired. Be careful what you wish for as you might just get it!! I'm reminded of the tale of the person who wanted everything he touched to turn to gold. For this purpose, take my advice and use a demon only at the last resort for necessity only(not greed). An even worse way of working with one is for black magick in order to restrict the will of another. Sure, it might just work, but the demon might very well have a little something in store for the summoner as well. Nobody really needs to play about with them, but I'll admit there is an appeal to it. I prefered working with the Goetia by transvocation as opposed to the traditional evocational methods. They seemed very willing to share their knowledge this way; with evoking, it was like dealing with a shady mechanic("No I do'nt want to work on your car, but I'll do it as it's my job. But it's gonna cost ya and I might just go out for a joyride or two"). They require patience and a lack of fear(edit-or a gaggle of controlled fear!). Just shoe the ignore-ants of this thread away and think, no wait, do'nt think about if you need to summon. Maybe use divination on the matter. But usually, if ya have to ask...do'nt. 93 93/93 |