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 MOTH
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 Controlling mental projections = control reality
#8338766 - 04/28/08 06:41 PM (6 months, 30 days ago) |
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During an LSD trip this weekend, I realized that my thoughts were manifesting my reality for me. I was at a party in NYC and during the come up, I realized that my thoughts were eliciting a negative response in me. I would look at people I didn't know, and have paranoid thoughts, which I saw as an effect which could snowball into an actual rough situation. Fortunately I immediately had the realization that it was my PROJECTION of the thoughts which would have created the reality I thus feared.
The rest of the trip, I practiced on controlling the projection of all my thoughts. I realized that I could stop the projection of thought-energy, return to here, now, and thus experience reality with a lens of love, rather then fear.
This was such a powerful experience to recognize that I had the power to control my thoughts. Every time an unsavory thought came to mind, I simply halted it by thinking back at it, "Don't project," and it stopped, the fear went away, and I felt ecstatic again.
It has taken me years to figure out that I project my experience of reality, to this degree.
Just wanted to share...
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 Re: Controlling mental projections = control reality [Re: MOTH]
#8339148 - 04/28/08 08:06 PM (6 months, 30 days ago) |
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i plan on dropping acid for the 1st time fairly soon. I hope to have some insight like this.
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Re: Controlling mental projections = control reality [Re: Jack Albertson]
#8339708 - 04/28/08 09:59 PM (6 months, 30 days ago) |
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what really made me understand projection and my attachment to it was a few really intense experiences with amnesia... which occured on lsd.
amnesia... what a trip 
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when you see it, that's when you'll be seen"
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Re: Controlling mental projections = control reality [Re: MOTH]
#8339739 - 04/28/08 10:05 PM (6 months, 30 days ago) |
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but yeah, it is really empowering and blissful when we have the ability to see our projections as they are, rather than exist within the process of them.
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"you're in a boat, you choose the color of the boat
the boat's on the ocean
the ocean represents your spirit, your emotions, and your life
and the life that you're living is the boat, you're in the boat
you have an anchor, that you don't know you have, it's an invisible anchor
when you see it, that's when you'll be seen"
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Re: Controlling mental projections = control reality [Re: MOTH]
#8340371 - 04/29/08 12:08 AM (6 months, 30 days ago) |
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Awesome. This is key knowledge. Ties in with your 'you, and you alove' thread too.
Let us all take back the reigns of awareness.
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Re: Controlling mental projections = control reality [Re: MOTH]
#8340395 - 04/29/08 12:15 AM (6 months, 30 days ago) |
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Is this the first time you tripped since watching 'The Secret'?
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Re: Controlling mental projections = control reality [Re: Ginseng1]
#8340538 - 04/29/08 12:54 AM (6 months, 30 days ago) |
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What's 'The Secret?' I've never seen it.
It was my first time on LSD in a year though.
And VERRY potent liquid.
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Re: Controlling mental projections = control reality [Re: MOTH]
#8340598 - 04/29/08 01:17 AM (6 months, 30 days ago) |
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It is a movie. Watch it!
It is all about thoughts + emotions creating ones reality.
Alot of interesting spiritual concepts with a core of truth, no doubt.
There may be an exploitation of materialism in the movie. But this day and age, we are all so wound up in it, we can't help but consider the possible implications what this thought game could have on our material possessions. 
The message is that you choose whether to actively participate in the creation of your own reality, how you want it, or passively watch your reality drift by, as your life rots away. And how you do this, ofcourse, starts with your thoughts.
Which is why I asked if you had seen it before your trip because what you described in your post has some tightly knit concepts with the movie. I wouldn't even call it a movie, it's more of a lecture by some pretty cool people IMO.
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Edited by Ginseng1 (04/29/08 01:19 AM)
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Re: Controlling mental projections = control reality [Re: Ginseng1]
#8340626 - 04/29/08 01:26 AM (6 months, 30 days ago) |
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i'm pretty good at the "don't think of pink elephants" game, but alot of times i have to cheat and physically move my body to escape from the unruly thought.
the dude was mentioning something about this in psychedelic experience forum 2 weeks ago. finding the place that you project from and then learning to control it is the source of magic.
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Re: Controlling mental projections = control reality [Re: MOTH]
#8340916 - 04/29/08 03:39 AM (6 months, 30 days ago) |
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You're exactly right that mental projections control reality, but then again there are those who can mentally project on a more powerful scale than yourself, and in that instance, since you don't have any power over them, you cannot control reality.
I find it kind of frightening, personally, that I, as a human, have this power; that every millisecond, every instance of life can be created and controlled, it's almost too much power, too much responsibility that is not only at my disposal, but needs to be constantly used, without any breaks (except, of course, when I fall asleep!). So I prefer to just let things happen naturally, let nature control itself, allow those "unsavory thoughts" to relinquish themselves from me over time, without any effort on my behalf.
I think ALL of us are inherently paranoid of each other, and we just hide it for show, but that's just my take, what do you think?
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Edited by Poid (04/29/08 03:43 AM)
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Re: Controlling mental projections = control reality [Re: Poid]
#8348410 - 05/01/08 02:21 AM (6 months, 28 days ago) |
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Poid said:
I think ALL of us are inherently paranoid of each other, and we just hide it for show, but that's just my take, what do you think?
I believe that paranoia is a learned thought pattern. When I was a child, everyone was a friend; I had no reason to fear anyone at all. I LEARNED to fear others, through observing the fear in others, and through in many cases, being instructed to have that type of fear.
Since I believe paranoia is learned, NOT inherent, I believe you can replace the paranoia response with healthier thought patterns.
I actually encountered a paranoid situation today in fact, when my doorbell rang at 9am this morning and a repair man came in to fix something in my apartment, unscheduled. I was suddenly wrecked with fear about the possibility of him finding something that he shouldn't find in my apartment, related to drugs. Awoken so suddenly from sleep and crazy dreams, I immediately went into a paranoid projection pattern, and it was some moments before I could calm down enough to realize that everything was fine (I plan for this type of stuff) and that my worry had no place in reality.
I do believe I can retrain myself to react with a calm center to startling events, rather then paranoia and fear. It just takes awareness to undo previous programming.
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Re: Controlling mental projections = control reality [Re: MOTH]
#8348477 - 05/01/08 03:03 AM (6 months, 28 days ago) |
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"Because the European does not know his own unconscious, he does not understand the East and projects into it everything he fears and despises in himself."
-Carl Jung (1875-1961)
"Your vision will become clear only when you can look into your own heart. Who looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakes."
-Carl Jung
projection...man...doooood!! the whole consensual reality is just mind shadow on top of mind shadow ad infinitum! hopefully humanity is heading towards the high noon of pure consciousness, where all mind shadows are obliterated and all that is left to bare is the everpresent, in and of This Eternal Moment Truth.
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Re: Controlling mental projections = control reality [Re: MOTH]
#8362059 - 05/04/08 05:25 PM (6 months, 24 days ago) |
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MOTH said:
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Poid said:
I think ALL of us are inherently paranoid of each other, and we just hide it for show, but that's just my take, what do you think?
I believe that paranoia is a learned thought pattern. When I was a child, everyone was a friend; I had no reason to fear anyone at all. I LEARNED to fear others, through observing the fear in others, and through in many cases, being instructed to have that type of fear.
Since I believe paranoia is learned, NOT inherent, I believe you can replace the paranoia response with healthier thought patterns.
I actually encountered a paranoid situation today in fact, when my doorbell rang at 9am this morning and a repair man came in to fix something in my apartment, unscheduled. I was suddenly wrecked with fear about the possibility of him finding something that he shouldn't find in my apartment, related to drugs. Awoken so suddenly from sleep and crazy dreams, I immediately went into a paranoid projection pattern, and it was some moments before I could calm down enough to realize that everything was fine (I plan for this type of stuff) and that my worry had no place in reality.
I do believe I can retrain myself to react with a calm center to startling events, rather then paranoia and fear. It just takes awareness to undo previous programming.
No, you're right, I should've reworded myself. I don't believe we are naturally inherently paranoid, but what I meant to say is that in this society, it is an inherent given that we are all deeply paranoid in each other.
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Re: Controlling mental projections = control reality [Re: Poid]
#8362180 - 05/04/08 05:55 PM (6 months, 24 days ago) |
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reality is a projection
Reality is
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 Re: Controlling mental projections = control reality [Re: MOTH]
#8365341 - 05/05/08 03:00 PM (6 months, 23 days ago) |
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Why control?
If you come to the America, and bring a bag, the customs, will control it..
We need not control mental projection, nor reality..
We are, one..
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Re: Controlling mental projections = control reality [Re: Gomp]
#8376407 - 05/08/08 03:17 AM (6 months, 21 days ago) |
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Gomp said:
Why control?
If you come to the America, and bring a bag, the customs, will control it..
We need not control mental projection, nor reality..
We are, one..
No, the customs may control it, probably based on the judgement of your character watching out for any nervous behavior.
Yes we are one; but each of us is one, too. It's kind of like one if life's nearly unfathomable paradoxes.
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#8377222 - 05/08/08 12:00 PM (6 months, 20 days ago) |
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They may?
I do reside in Norway, but I know for sure; that they control every bag that comes inn to America.
To keep the terror 'hype' vital..
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Re: Controlling mental projections = control reality [Re: Gomp]
#8377339 - 05/08/08 12:25 PM (6 months, 20 days ago) |
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Sounds like an awesome experience, if you can turn thought energy back inside then you are experiencing reality, witnessing from the core of being, if you project the thoughts then you are going external creating your own reality, not unadulterated reality, but your own reality, which usually involves desires that "I" want to aquire.
The power of positive thought is amazing but directing the energy from which thoughts project back inside is when you feel true love, ecstacy, oneness...anything else is a creation of your minds projections, fun and brilliantly creative but not as "real" as when you turn the energy back in, which sounds like what you were doing to me. 
Going external with energy makes you feel fear as you feel separate from your being, all your energy is going outside, simply returning the energy back to its source is the best technique a human can master. Keep dropping from the mind to the heart, love fears nothing!!!
Im all for power of thought but im more interested in what happens when the thoughts turns in on itself to the source  then the projections which spontaniously spring from there are far more creative & satisfying than any ego based creation as they are for the good of all.
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Re: Controlling mental projections = control reality [Re: Gomp]
#8377648 - 05/08/08 01:35 PM (6 months, 20 days ago) |
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Gomp said:
They may?
I do reside in Norway, but I know for sure; that they control every bag that comes inn to America.
To keep the terror 'hype' vital..
So they check EVERY person's bag? That sounds very impractical and time consuming, I really doubt they do that....
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Re: Controlling mental projections = control reality [Re: Poid]
#8379645 - 05/08/08 09:36 PM (6 months, 20 days ago) |
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Mental Projection is used as a tool to shape how your emotion reacts internally.
I find i attempt to direct reality or "myths" towards people mostly when i find that i am either afraid of them or hateful - as a way to instill love.
This is useless.
The best thing i have honestly come across was the discovery that this took up way to much energy.
At best it will work with one person encounters and it will eventually run out and frustrate you, because you are teetertotering from emmitting one reality to the preconditioned one.
The best thing to do is to focus on the belief and any thing that reminds you of that belief, while letting the rest flow smoothly.
A belief is much like a stream, which begins at a source springing from the underground. To put an end to all thoughts and interpreations that arise in your head, it works best to unearth the proper spring instead of trying to create a damn and stop the flow(projecting reality)
In short - instead of projecting, intentionally, focus on the belief itself and let the rest flow naturally - like the seasons change.
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The mind is a creative tool. It searches to protect you, through message sensations(feelings). It is no different than a computer, you need to make sure its anti-virus program is in check and that it doesnt have a script that limits your experience, because of to much precaution.
And remember the computer does not appear to respond to words of anger and frustration - just give it input, in the form of new meanings that you know to be true and its messages to you and the limits it lays out for you, will change.
Guilt is an outcome of believing you are the cause of the problems.
Yet, we are not a cause to something, we see is negative or bad - Unless you believe your intentions are directed towards a bad outcome....
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