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 Negator
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 Quidding Salvia - A trip report
#8360446 - 05/04/08 05:37 AM (6 months, 26 days ago) |
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Hi guys,
Since I have some lung issues and I dont like to smoke, I experimented a little with quidding Salvia. I thought it would be informative to share the information and provide a brief report of my last trip.
Last trip:
4 grams of plain dried Salvia leaves
- Rehydrate half of the leaves 10 min in water
- Brush teeth thoroughly, also tongue and gums
- Rinse mouth with Cool Mint Listerine
- Take the rehydrated leaves and remove excess water
- Put in mouth and drink a little bit of whisky
- Chew for 15 minutes, then spit out
- Soak other part of leaves in water
- Repeat chewing with other part
When chewing the leaves I sit in meditative position and try to think of a question I want answered. The effect usually hits me after 15 minutes of chewing when I am about to change quid. It starts with a tingling sensation in my body, increase in temperature and dream like visions usually about something that I have been doing that day. Since I have been slowly building up doses of Salvia, I only experienced the dream state (around 3 grams) until the 4 gram trip.
The 4 gram trip didnt start different. It started with voices and images of a documentary I have seen that day. I swapped the quid after 15 minutes and decided to lie down with the quid still in my mouth tucked safely behind my cheek and locked in to place with my teeth while gently moving it around. At this stage it became difficult to chew since so much was going on in my head.
I removed the quid after a while and when I closed my eyes I had the feeling that I was part of a tube system (the voices and other images were gone). The tubes were dark and surrounded me. My body was a part of it, although I couldnt identify if my body consisted of those tubes. After a while the feeling faded and bright visuals were seen. It mostly consisted of the typical rotating tunnel and the shooting stars that I also saw in my mushroom trips. The shooting stars were bright and came from focal points that looked like cannons. The colors were great, everything was made of rainbow colors except the cannons looked very alien, dark metal with blue lights.
Although it sounds as if this was easy going, the visuals were incredibly chaotic and I thought that I would never remember anything of it.
When the visuals were slowing down, less intense and chaotic, I started to formulate questions to see if I got feedback. I indeed got some vague answers to the questions but most of the questions were answered with an intensification of the visuals.
When the trip reached the end and I could formulate coherent sentences again I looked at my clock and 45 minutes had passed since I put the second quid in my mouth. I felt calm and relaxed but was completely amazed by the chaos and visuals that I witnessed.
I had a good night sleep, and could remember most of my dreams. I even got an answer to a recurring dream that has been bugging me for a while.
For me Salvia was pretty chaotic but very interesting. I am going to continue with the quidding technique and see if I can approve my life with quidding once in a while. I hope that this information is any help to people on their pathway to experience Salvia.
Did anyone else experience something similar to this?
Peace be with you,
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 redgreenvines
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Re: Quidding Salvia - A trip report [Re: Negator]
#8360586 - 05/04/08 07:33 AM (6 months, 26 days ago) |
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i like the steady careful method
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Re: Quidding Salvia - A trip report [Re: redgreenvines]
#8360615 - 05/04/08 08:04 AM (6 months, 26 days ago) |
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I've tried the quid method and it didn't work. Well I say method. I boiled some water, soaked the salvia (15x extract) in the hot water for 45 min. Then held it in my mouth for an hour. Didn't do a thing. Perhaps the tincture, which is salvia in alcohol might work, as the alcohol might pas the membranes of your mouth and tongue. I used about a half gram of the 15x, that that according to my calculation is about 7 g of plain leaf. Perhaps using a water pipe. Make it easier to handle on your lungs.
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redgreenvines
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Re: Quidding Salvia - A trip report [Re: Negator]
#8361500 - 05/04/08 02:36 PM (6 months, 26 days ago) |
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because it is a waxy crystalline solid until very high temperatures are achived, to absorb it you have to chew vigorously and squeeze it into the cheeks.
it has erroneously been referred to as sublingual absorption.
tincture can be sublingual,
quid is buccal (smished into cheeks)
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Re: Quidding Salvia - A trip report [Re: redgreenvines]
#8361519 - 05/04/08 02:43 PM (6 months, 26 days ago) |
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If that's the case that's probably what went wrong. I was holding the leaves under my tongue for as long as I could.
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Re: Quidding Salvia - A trip report [Re: redgreenvines]
#8361564 - 05/04/08 02:59 PM (6 months, 26 days ago) |
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That sounds about right. It is basically what I did. Move it around in my mouth and chew once every few seconds. Although when the effects starts to come on, it becomes more and more difficult to remember to chew 
I also use the small amount of whisky to dissolve some of the salvinorin and get it easier in the system. Also the taste of the quid gets a bit better.
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Re: Quidding Salvia - A trip report [Re: Negator]
#8362077 - 05/04/08 05:29 PM (6 months, 26 days ago) |
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i really have to try this sometime. i've tried it before but i got very mild effects.
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Re: Quidding Salvia - A trip report [Re: maggotz]
#8366192 - 05/05/08 07:26 PM (6 months, 25 days ago) |
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does anyone know if you can buy 20x LEAVES. Like not smashed up little bits.
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Re: Quidding Salvia - A trip report [Re: ezkiel]
#8367656 - 05/06/08 01:48 AM (6 months, 24 days ago) |
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Quote:
ezkiel said:
does anyone know if you can buy 20x LEAVES. Like not smashed up little bits.
nah, 20x means it is an extract. The salvinorin has been extracted out of "leaf material". Leafs are far less potent than an extract, but intense effects can still be achieved with reverse tollerance....
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