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 never.never.land
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 Is there ever a time where you should step into someones life?
#8570332 - 06/27/08 08:51 AM (5 months, 5 days ago) |
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My friend who I fear is addicted to heroin, oxy's or really any opiates he can find recently said, "I could quit them you know. I bet you I could quit them.". To me this seemed like it's almost him looking for help. Do you think it would benefit him or just alienate him from me if I tried to talk to him about it?
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Floydseamus
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Re: Is there ever a time where you should step into someones life? [Re: never.never.land]
#8570860 - 06/27/08 12:25 PM (5 months, 5 days ago) |
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I've been down the opiate addiction road. As a matter of fact, I'm withdrawing mildly right now as i type this. I know that no one at no time could ever convince me to quit, unless i wanted to. Some people did try to talk to me about it, and i didn't alienate them, IF they didn't have the "I'm better than you" attitude. I know it sucks AND has been said many times before, but anyone addicted to any drug wont quit until they themselves realize that they want to. Just try to be honest, but not judgmental, and show him/her that you care somehow. I know that in times of deep drug abuse, the best thing for me was just someone to talk to. At least for me, those times come when i am dealing with heavy things in life. So i drown my self in opiates. Good luck to him/her... Opiate dependence is the worst thing I've dealt with, and the resulting depression and physical feelings from withdrawal are always worse, for me at least, than the feelings that started the binge in the first place.
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Floyd
I've got opium in my chimney,
No other life to choose,
Nightmare made of hash dreams,
Got the devil in my shoes.
Tell me, tell me, What have I done wrong,
Must be I've been smoking to long....
(Nick Drake)
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Re: Is there ever a time where you should step into someones life? [Re: Floydseamus]
#8571883 - 06/27/08 05:48 PM (5 months, 5 days ago) |
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I know I can't make him quit. I learned that the hard way before I knew anything about drugs.
But recently he's been saying things that make me think he does want to stop. I've heard him say things like "Fiending SUCKS" and "I can stop, I bet you I can stop doing them for the rest of the year."
I don't mean this as an insult to his person, but to his dependency made him sound very pathetic. Perhaps he does want to quit but just doesn't know where to go from there?
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Re: Is there ever a time where you should step into someones life? [Re: never.never.land]
#8572156 - 06/27/08 07:13 PM (5 months, 5 days ago) |
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I was VERY badly addicted to ketamine for a year and a half, and repeatedly went thru incidents (passing out in public, being very sick, etc.) in which my friends were involved and the severity of my problem was very evident.
I repeatedly said "itīll run its course, no ones gonna stop me."
I wish SO MUCH that my friends just played tough love and took me out to the forest and interveened, or slammed me against the wall - slapped me and told me to get my shit straight.
What resulted was a feeling of alienation from my friends and the sense they did not care about me. These feelings perpetuated my addiction.
Floydseamus speaks the truth.
I think when someone cannot guage themselves, it is acceptable to act as a guage for them (in a non judgemental way.)
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Re: Is there ever a time where you should step into someones life? [Re: never.never.land]
#8572193 - 06/27/08 07:28 PM (5 months, 5 days ago) |
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I have known people who are into bad addictions, but by the time I knew, it was too late anyway. Eventually all of them fucked themselves over, and thats what it took for them to stop. its still an ongoing saga in my life.
The universe unfolds as it should.
I try not to get involved in peoples personal addictions. I tend to try to get my own shit straight as I value that more.
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Re: Is there ever a time where you should step into someones life? [Re: centrum]
#8572246 - 06/27/08 07:43 PM (5 months, 5 days ago) |
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He should be lucky he's got someone like you who cares.
My friends don't intervene cause they all love opies too.
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Re: Is there ever a time where you should step into someones life? [Re: marshalldylan1]
#8572302 - 06/27/08 08:00 PM (5 months, 5 days ago) |
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Well, hes taken off for a few days, and I need to leave the country for up to two weeks...
The SECOND I have time, I will sit him down and try to help him get his shit straight. Whether he knows it or not he still has friends and I guess I'd rather get him off the shit and lose him as a friend, then see him waste away but stay cool with him.
Well I guess my minds made up. Thanks all of you, especially PDU for making it clear what needed doing. If any of you have tips for dealing with him, talking so that he can understand. I need him to understand that I'm trying to help him.
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Re: Is there ever a time where you should step into someones life? [Re: centrum]
#8572308 - 06/27/08 08:04 PM (5 months, 5 days ago) |
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I completely understand when you say, "I tend to try to get my own shit straight as I value that more." But as of now I'm doing pretty good, I'm a little worried about my DXM use, and I'm a little stressed, but this guy's in some serious shit and I think if I helped him it's something that, while wouldn't be public or anything, is bigger than any other thing I could possibly do.
I can honestly say I love that guy and I wouldn't be able to live with myself if he OD'd or offed himself.
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