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 road apple
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 stuntzii question.
#7982905 - 02/05/08 02:32 PM (9 months, 24 days ago) |
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So whats the deal? Lately I have been receiving conflicting reports about the best substrate for stuntziis. I was always under the impression that it was a wood-lover, but some people disagree with that statement. With the general lack of info on this lbm, any input would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: stuntzii question. [Re: road apple]
#7982938 - 02/05/08 02:47 PM (9 months, 24 days ago) |
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In my experience it is more of a secondary decomposer of wood and does poorly on freshly chipped wood. I have had some success using sterilized horse manure mixed with 25% hardwood sawdust and I have heard reports of successful crops with just grass seed.
Psilocybe stuntzii is considered a complex of closely related species and what works for one may not work for all. I'd go ahead and try some wood substrates with the awareness that it may not work. Good luck!
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Re: stuntzii question. [Re: Workman]
#7983141 - 02/05/08 03:50 PM (9 months, 24 days ago) |
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this little mushroom was found outside a horse stable, where they used wood shavings as bedding. Like workman said, it seemed to be loving the pre-decomposed shavings which were regularly tracked out of the stall by the animal.
there are great piles of pre-decomposed horse manure/shavings this site, I have tried colonization of this material but have found the mycelium to reject it. perhaps I will try a little calcium carbonate to cut the acidity. It also has the problem of poor air exchange within the log, and the shavings exposed to the air dry out very quickly.
Eventually I would like to inoculate my entire back field, so a decent bulk substrate is imperative.
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Re: stuntzii question. [Re: road apple]
#7985020 - 02/05/08 10:42 PM (9 months, 24 days ago) |
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Are you certain about your identification? Got any pictures? You may have found a different annulated Psilocybe that is closer to Psilocybe semilanceata.
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Re: stuntzii question. [Re: Workman]
#7986391 - 02/06/08 12:03 PM (9 months, 23 days ago) |
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I would love to add a picture but I am too stupid to figure out how to download a picture onto a thread. I have been able to add them to my gallery, but I am unable to add a jpg file for some reason.
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Re: stuntzii question. [Re: road apple]
#7991154 - 02/07/08 10:57 AM (9 months, 22 days ago) |
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Does Psilocybe fimetaria occur in North America? This is a membranously annulate psilocybe favouring horse dung. Also, horses sometimes travel... It would be good to have a thorough description of these specimens of yours as you may have been hasty in narrowing the species down to stuntzii.
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Re: stuntzii question. [Re: Mr E Guest]
#7991220 - 02/07/08 11:14 AM (9 months, 22 days ago) |
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cap: 1-2 cm wide, dome shaped with no noticeable nipple. thick, brown/olive in color drying to golden.
spores: dark brown/purple
stem: thin but firm 2-5cm long with a blue ring where the veil would have made contact.
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Re: stuntzii question. [Re: road apple]
#7991244 - 02/07/08 11:20 AM (9 months, 22 days ago) |
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Upon further reserch in the archives I have found several pictures of a little mushroom which looks exactly like mine, growing at the university of seattle campus. I have also seen pictures of stuntzii which look just like cyans AND everything in between. How can the same substrain take on so many different forms?
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Re: stuntzii question. [Re: road apple]
#7991313 - 02/07/08 11:44 AM (9 months, 22 days ago) |
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There was a time when all Psilocybes in the PNW with a ring were considered P. stuntzii. Today P. stuntzii is considered more of a complex of closely related species and some annulated psilocybes have been determined to be other species entirely. The only way to know for sure is to examine a sample under the microscope. Pictures alone won't help much with this extremely variable group of species. The manure enriched habitat is suspect. Potential species besides P. stuntzii are P. fimetaria, P. sierrae (P. subfimetaria) as well as the lawn dwelling P. stuntzii var. tenuis.
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