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Ferris
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Teen Depression Worsened by Marijuana
#8382748 - 05/09/08 06:31 PM (6 months, 23 days ago) |
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Teen Depression Worsened by Marijuana, Government Says By Sarah Baldauf
Today the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy sent out a clear message on teen pot use and depression: They're a bad combination. Issuing a report that analyzes around a dozen studies about marijuana use and mental health, the policy office warned that teens who use marijuana to "self-medicate" may worsen their underlying depression or other mental health issues. The intention of the report, says John Walters, director of the Office of National Drug Control Policy, is to "try to correct two misunderstandings: That teen depression is not a problem and that teen marijuana use is not a problem—marijuana use is not safe." He advises parents to talk to their kids' pediatrician if they see signs of depression and suspect drug use.
The report, entitled "Teen Marijuana Use Worsens Depression: An Analysis of Recent Data Shows 'Self-Medicating' Could Actually Make Thing Worse," cites statistics to support its warning message, but experts are quick to note that it should be interpreted with caution. For example, the report's statement, "One 16-year study showed that individuals who were not depressed and then used marijuana were four times more likely to be depressed at follow-up," suggests marijuana might cause depression. That data from a 2001 study in the American Journal of Psychiatry was only statistically meaningful after the researchers adjusted for variables including age, gender, and antisocial symptoms, suggesting a weaker relationship between depression and marijuana before adjustments were made.The study also showed that those who were not depressed when first surveyed and then used opioids were 228 times more likely to be depressed at follow-up—without any adjustments. That statistic was not mentioned in the Drug Control Policy's report today. "Adolescent marijuana use may be a factor that triggers psychosis, depression, and other mental illness," says Walters, acknowledging that "research about causality is still ongoing."
Policy groups on the other side of the aisle believe the report is misleading. "We agree that kids shouldn't smoke marijuana, but we simply have to be honest to teens and parents. This report [is] deliberately confusing correlation with causation," says Bruce Mirken, director of communications at The Marijuana Project , a Washington-based group that aims to remove criminal penalties for marijuana use and make medical marijuana available to seriously ill patients with doctor's approval. "This very week the British government's official scientific advisors on illegal drugs issued a report saying they are 'unconvinced that there is a causal relationship between the use of cannabis and any affective disorder,' such as depression." Mirken takes issue with the lack of warning about alcohol's relationship to depression. "Data linking alcohol to depression is much stronger and alcohol use by teens is greater than marijuana use," he notes.
To be sure, experts believe marijuana carries risk, especially in the subset of teens who are more susceptible to substance abuse and mental health problems due to genetic makeup or environmental factors. "Among treatment populations [in] youth with substance abuse, there's a pretty high rate of clinical depression," says Oscar Bukstein, associate professor of psychiatry at the University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine; "many kids get high not to stay low."
Perhaps most important, those people with co-existing substance abuse and a mental health disorder have worse outcomes than those with either problem alone, he adds. For perspective, Bukstein notes that research has shown 1 in 10 kids who smoke marijuana go on to develop dependence, and about 1 in 10 kids who become dependent on marijuana have psychotic symptoms.
The bottom line, says Bukstein, is that mental illness and substance abuse very often go hand-in-hand. Parents who spot signs of depression should have their child professionally assessed for mental health issues, he says, and also for substance abuse—and the reverse is also true. As part of their development, kids are curious (see our previous story on teens' questions about drugs, addiction, alcohol and the like). To lower the likelihood of experimentation with pot, he advises parents to:
Always monitor and supervise. Know where your kids are going and with whom.
Set limits. Be sure they're not hanging out in homes where no adults are present.
Be consistent. Discipline works only when it's reinforced.
Seek professional help. If you have a hunch something's wrong, you're probably right.
Take care of your own problems. The biggest risk factor for substance abuse and mental health problems is family history.
This is bullshit propaganda imo, a citizen on stims is a productive citizen!
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Re: Did you know? [Re: Ferris]
#8382762 - 05/09/08 06:34 PM (6 months, 23 days ago) |
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Widely used antidepressants double the risk of suicidal behavior in young adults, from around three cases per thousand to seven cases per thousand
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/13/AR2006121300452.html
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Re: Did you know? [Re: Ferris]
#8382763 - 05/09/08 06:35 PM (6 months, 23 days ago) |
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I don't believe anything the government puts out.
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Re: Did you know? [Re: niteowl]
#8382787 - 05/09/08 06:42 PM (6 months, 23 days ago) |
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I have a number of friends who have battled with depression, some worse than others.
One of closest friends sat in his house smoking weed morning, noon and night for months on end. He had a number of under lying issues but the weed definitely helped trigger off his paranoia which soon led to depression.
Depression and Marijuana have never been a good combination. Some people can smoke weed while others cant. This applies to every drug out there though.
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Re: Did you know? [Re: niteowl]
#8382792 - 05/09/08 06:44 PM (6 months, 23 days ago) |
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niteowl said: I don't believe anything the government puts out.
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Re: Did you know? [Re: niteowl]
#8382800 - 05/09/08 06:46 PM (6 months, 23 days ago) |
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niteowl said: I don't believe anything the government puts out.
If the government admitted that cannabis and psychedelics are not dangerous, would you not believe them and assume that cannabis and psychedelics ARE dangerous?
just being a dick I guess.
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Re: Did you know? [Re: Ferris]
#8382801 - 05/09/08 06:46 PM (6 months, 23 days ago) |
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I'm not convinced that introducing psychoactive chemicals of any sort, in any substantial amount, is the best idea for a still-developing brain of an immature human. Marijuana or <insert current Rx being handed out like candy by doctors>.
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I'd hand my son (if I ever have one) a joint before I ever fed him something from McDonalds, that's for sure.
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boxcarguy07 said: I'd hand my son (if I ever have one) a joint before I ever fed him something from McDonalds, that's for sure.
as long as his brain was done developing I hope...
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Re: Did you know? [Re: aDoS]
#8382819 - 05/09/08 06:51 PM (6 months, 23 days ago) |
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aDoS said:
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niteowl said: I don't believe anything the government puts out.
If the government admitted that cannabis and psychedelics are not dangerous, would you not believe them and assume that cannabis and psychedelics ARE dangerous?
just being a dick I guess.
I'd be extremely suspicious that they took over the mexican mafia and were starting to put mind-controlling chems in the plants.
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Depression and Marijuana have never been a good combination. Some people can smoke weed while others cant. This applies to every drug out there though.
After several years of smoking marijuana I have finally gotten over the depression of about 15 years of chronic abuse.
I don't know where you're getting your information (the government?) but it definitely helped me out. Really gave me some perspective on life and how the choices I make affect my emotional state. It also helped me kick a gnarly xanax addiction.
All around I'd say it's a good substitute for effexor. WAAAAY less side effects.
Edit: My friend was on effexor and his piss turned to jello. Has your piss ever turned into jello from weed?
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Re: Did you know? [Re: Ferris]
#8382825 - 05/09/08 06:52 PM (6 months, 23 days ago) |
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wouldn't really matter if you grew your own, or knew the grower of the bud you buy
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Re: Did you know? [Re: aDoS]
#8382830 - 05/09/08 06:53 PM (6 months, 23 days ago) |
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aDoS said: wouldn't really matter if you grew your own, or knew the grower of the bud you buy
Spot on, chap
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Re: Did you know? [Re: Ferris]
#8382846 - 05/09/08 06:55 PM (6 months, 23 days ago) |
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not quit sure what spot on means, but if its something good then I will do so.
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Re: Did you know? [Re: aDoS]
#8382849 - 05/09/08 06:56 PM (6 months, 23 days ago) |
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spot on-exactly
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Re: Did you know? [Re: Coaster]
#8382874 - 05/09/08 07:07 PM (6 months, 23 days ago) |
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But...what if my kids overseas fighting in a holy war so this administration can keep its profit margins up?!?!?
How the fuck am I supposed to watch them at the same time?!? I already told the little bastard to bring back a few oz of that good aphghan dope, I don't wanna be a hypocrite!!!
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Re: Teen Depression Worsened by Marijuana [Re: Ferris]
#8382921 - 05/09/08 07:20 PM (6 months, 23 days ago) |
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I think teens who are smoking marijuana are more likely to be depressed when adults are telling them marijuana causes or worsens depression. Maybe their depression is worsened because marijuana actually makes you think more, instead of deadening your senses to the world like alcohol? Maybe they get more depressed because they realize how fucked up things truly are.
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kriminalelement said: Edit: My friend was on effexor and his piss turned to jello. Has your piss ever turned into jello from weed?
How did it taste?
Effexor made me ejaculate about a minute after orgasming. That can confuse a 16 year old boy... wanking off with nothing coming out. Then putting your pants on and suddenly feeling something wet slide down your leg.
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Marijuana use probably increases depression due in part to the realization that things are shit and need to be changed...
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Re: Did you know? [Re: Ferris]
#8383222 - 05/09/08 09:01 PM (6 months, 23 days ago) |
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I've always suffered from severe depression and weed used to help me a lot.
I've never met someone depressed from weed, I find it very hard to believe the information posted in the OP.
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