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 leftysurprise
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 concience/civic duty dilemma.
#8328697 - 04/25/08 09:50 PM (5 months, 9 days ago) |
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alright so im torn between what i should do and what i want to do..........
there is an older guy that works at the grocery store near me, nice guy, too nice i would say, he spends his own money to buy food for these stray cats outside of the store, im not sure how often he works, but it seems that every time i go there he is working, and every night around 8-10pm i go there he is out by his car feeding these cats, now a year ago i thought it was very kind of him to feed a stray cat, because there was only one of them........ and he was only buying 1 can a day or whatever(being as nice as the guy is, i wouldnt put it past him to drive up to this store even on days he is not working and feed these cats), but now its just getting ridiculous, tonight i counted 8 STRAY CATS eating by his car, and i have seen kittens around the past month or so, so i know they are not fixed and are in fact breeding, he now buys quite a bit of food with his own money to feed them, and i still feel sympathy for him because i would WANT to do the same myself, but the realistic side of me knows that if he keeps this up, his kindness will kill his pockets, and it will also put more wild animals in the area, spreading disease and etc. in one year it has gone from 1 stray to 8+ strays with kittens.....
my question is what would you guys do? seriously, no jokes(like thats going to happen lol). would you call animal control and have them taken off of the streets knowing they will just be put down, or let it continue the way it has been going?
im very torn between what i should do, because i love all animals, especially cats...... 
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Edited by leftysurprise (04/25/08 09:55 PM)
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DuNeRaVeR
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Re: concience/civic duty dilemma. [Re: leftysurprise]
#8328712 - 04/25/08 09:53 PM (5 months, 9 days ago) |
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*conscious :P
and in the wise words of the Beatles, "Let it be"
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 Chemy
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Re: concience/civic duty dilemma. [Re: DuNeRaVeR]
#8328730 - 04/25/08 09:57 PM (5 months, 9 days ago) |
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Quote:
DuNeRaVeR said:
*conscious :P
and in the wise words of the Beatles, "Let it be"
Conscience is a hypothesised ability or faculty that distinguishes whether our actions are right or wrong. It leads to feelings of remorse when we do things that go against our moral values, and to feelings of rectitude or integrity when our actions conform to our moral values. It is also the attitude which informs our moral judgment before performing any action. The extent to which such moral judgements are based in reason has been a matter of controversy almost throughout the history of Western philosophy.
:P
Leftysurprise wasn't asking whether he was awake or asleep, lol
Edited by Chemy (04/25/08 10:03 PM)
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 nalyudi
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Re: concience/civic duty dilemma. [Re: DuNeRaVeR]
#8328735 - 04/25/08 09:57 PM (5 months, 9 days ago) |
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id say if you knew the person, and he is just so soft hearted that he cant not feed the cats even if it means he doesnt eat....then intervene. otherwise the guy might be lonely and they are all he has which is sad but if you were to take that away he may have nothing.
my vote is unless you know its hurting him stay out of it
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leftysurprise
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Re: concience/civic duty dilemma. [Re: Chemy]
#8328783 - 04/25/08 10:10 PM (5 months, 9 days ago) |
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Quote:
Chemy said:
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DuNeRaVeR said:
*conscious :P
and in the wise words of the Beatles, "Let it be"
Conscience is a hypothesised ability or faculty that distinguishes whether our actions are right or wrong. It leads to feelings of remorse when we do things that go against our moral values, and to feelings of rectitude or integrity when our actions conform to our moral values. It is also the attitude which informs our moral judgment before performing any action. The extent to which such moral judgements are based in reason has been a matter of controversy almost throughout the history of Western philosophy.
:P
Leftysurprise wasn't asking whether he was awake or asleep, lol
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"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it. "
~Abraham Lincoln
“If I had a quarter for every time I said I had a nickel, I would have five times as much theoretical money. ”
~Stephen Colbert
“I contend we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.”
~Stephen Roberts
"George Bush says he speaks to god every day, and christians love him for it. If George Bush said he spoke to god through his hair dryer, they would think he was mad. I fail to see how the addition of a hair dryer makes it any more absurd."
~Unknown
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weiliiiiiii
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Re: concience/civic duty dilemma. [Re: leftysurprise]
#8328795 - 04/25/08 10:13 PM (5 months, 9 days ago) |
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Its not in your hands in my opinion maybe the cats are all that guy has or maybe thats what makes him feel good. No offense but its really not your business and im not saying that trying to be a dick.
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leftysurprise
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Re: concience/civic duty dilemma. [Re: nalyudi]
#8328797 - 04/25/08 10:13 PM (5 months, 9 days ago) |
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Quote:
nalyudi said:
id say if you knew the person, and he is just so soft hearted that he cant not feed the cats even if it means he doesnt eat....then intervene. otherwise the guy might be lonely and they are all he has which is sad but if you were to take that away he may have nothing.
my vote is unless you know its hurting him stay out of it
i dont know him personally, but i have talked to him a couple of times out in the parking lot. i know that he is a widower and basically works as a bag boy/cart retriever just to pass the time, so there is no doubt in my mind that he is lonely, which is another reason why i am torn, 1. because i love animals, and 2. because for all i know these cats may be all he has left to make him smile..... 
but then on the other hand, he has got to be close to or over 70, and when he dies, then what? we have 30+ strays running around because he was kind hearted and lonely?
i donno,..... i have no idea what i should do.
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"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it. "
~Abraham Lincoln
“If I had a quarter for every time I said I had a nickel, I would have five times as much theoretical money. ”
~Stephen Colbert
“I contend we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.”
~Stephen Roberts
"George Bush says he speaks to god every day, and christians love him for it. If George Bush said he spoke to god through his hair dryer, they would think he was mad. I fail to see how the addition of a hair dryer makes it any more absurd."
~Unknown
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nalyudi
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Re: concience/civic duty dilemma. [Re: leftysurprise]
#8328811 - 04/25/08 10:16 PM (5 months, 9 days ago) |
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dont narc out his kittehs. i usually dont pity old people, but i havent dealt with one in a long time that pissed me off. let him be happy.
is weiliii the dude?
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leftysurprise
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Re: concience/civic duty dilemma. [Re: weiliiiiiii]
#8328821 - 04/25/08 10:17 PM (5 months, 9 days ago) |
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Quote:
weiliiiiiii said:
Its not in your hands in my opinion maybe the cats are all that guy has or maybe thats what makes him feel good. No offense but its really not your business and im not saying that trying to be a dick.
i know youre not trying to be a dick. thats why i started this thread, to get some opinions.
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"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it. "
~Abraham Lincoln
“If I had a quarter for every time I said I had a nickel, I would have five times as much theoretical money. ”
~Stephen Colbert
“I contend we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.”
~Stephen Roberts
"George Bush says he speaks to god every day, and christians love him for it. If George Bush said he spoke to god through his hair dryer, they would think he was mad. I fail to see how the addition of a hair dryer makes it any more absurd."
~Unknown
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leftysurprise
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Re: concience/civic duty dilemma. [Re: nalyudi]
#8328840 - 04/25/08 10:22 PM (5 months, 9 days ago) |
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Quote:
nalyudi said:
dont narc out his kittehs. i usually dont pity old people, but i havent dealt with one in a long time that pissed me off. let him be happy.
is weiliii the dude?
i donno, he might be, he felt pretty strongly about the question..... HAHA.
no in all seriousness though. i do understand your opinion on this though, as i have thought the very same thing, but then on the other hand of the scale, my responsible side is telling me that, yeah, i can let this old guy feed these cats until he kicks the bucket, but then what? then i sentence MORE cats to death when i finally call animal control?? and also think about this, what if they all become so dependent on him that once he does die, they wont be able to find enough food on their own and end up starving to death??
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"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it. "
~Abraham Lincoln
“If I had a quarter for every time I said I had a nickel, I would have five times as much theoretical money. ”
~Stephen Colbert
“I contend we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.”
~Stephen Roberts
"George Bush says he speaks to god every day, and christians love him for it. If George Bush said he spoke to god through his hair dryer, they would think he was mad. I fail to see how the addition of a hair dryer makes it any more absurd."
~Unknown
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Re: concience/civic duty dilemma. [Re: leftysurprise]
#8328861 - 04/25/08 10:29 PM (5 months, 9 days ago) |
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Long, boring story alert.......
I had a lot of death close to me, friend died then back to back family deaths so I left my depression and went to Ohio, while I was there a religious family took me in and had me work at the family business and there was a stray cat, and at the time the only thing I could bond to since I didn't want to bond to people thinking they would die anyway (bad state of mind)
I got some flea advantage stuff because the cat had fleas and fed the thing cans of tuna when I got to the shop and before I left.
One day on the way to the shop I saw that cat in the middle of the road, it screwed up my head so bad I wound up leaving Ohio that day.
In other words, the guy is a widower, and these cats are all he has maybe, why not mention to the guy that he can get the cat fixed cheap, and no worry about any more procreation.
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nalyudi
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Re: concience/civic duty dilemma. [Re: leftysurprise]
#8328869 - 04/25/08 10:31 PM (5 months, 9 days ago) |
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strays usually find ways of getting by for food. its tires that knock em down in their prime. i love animals to so it would be a tough call. except big spiders, a few close calls with some widows in GA has me scared to death of them.
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leftysurprise
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Re: concience/civic duty dilemma. [Re: Chemy]
#8328881 - 04/25/08 10:35 PM (5 months, 9 days ago) |
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damn, so the cat you bonded with ended up roadkill?? thats terrible.
i could mention it to him, but i seriously doubt he has the money for it, even being cheap..... he has a crappy OLD car, and is probably living off of social security and whatever he makes at the store.....
theyre very beautiful cats too. you can tell they are wild, but if they werent they would be awesome. if me and the fiancee didnt already have 3 cats i would totally take a couple home. especially the kittens.
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"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it. "
~Abraham Lincoln
“If I had a quarter for every time I said I had a nickel, I would have five times as much theoretical money. ”
~Stephen Colbert
“I contend we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.”
~Stephen Roberts
"George Bush says he speaks to god every day, and christians love him for it. If George Bush said he spoke to god through his hair dryer, they would think he was mad. I fail to see how the addition of a hair dryer makes it any more absurd."
~Unknown
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nalyudi
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Re: concience/civic duty dilemma. [Re: leftysurprise]
#8328901 - 04/25/08 10:41 PM (5 months, 9 days ago) |
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now i feel like an ass for saying the tires thing. sorry chemy, didnt see your story before posting
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