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 Spank? or No Spank?
#8600108 - 07/06/08 08:51 AM (4 months, 28 days ago) |
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Do you guys believe in spanking your kids/Future kids?
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Of course.
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Yeah... I was spanked and am happy about it now. I see kids I grew up with who were babied and they never stopped being whiny little kids.
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I believe in spanking adults 
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a judge told my brother "I'll tell you now, there's nothing
wrong with beating your kids as long as it's within reason"
I spank my kids, family and childrens services visited me about
it, I told them I spank my kids and I wont have any
government agency instructing me that I cannot, after a second
visit they dropped my case, kids may be getting spanked but
they're not being abused
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 Re: Spank? or No Spank? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#8600161 - 07/06/08 09:12 AM (4 months, 28 days ago) |
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Thanks for the imput guys. I have a 2 year old the size of a 5 year old and TIMEOUTS and SCOLDING only go so far. I have popped him on the butt (Not hard) a couple times and felt guilty. He definately responds to it.
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Spanking is for pussies.
When my 6yo daughter does something wrong she knows she has it coming. I strip her naked, tie her legs together and then hoist her upside down in the backyard walnut tree. I taze her in the tummy and the punishment is exacted in seconds of zap, or until she gets the message. If the tazer battery depletes along the way I get my belt and finish off like that. But never with the buckle, thats just cruel.
That said: where do you people draw the line between an educational correction and child abuse?
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For me: Enough to illicit real tears, and fear, with reminding them what it was for and how it could be worse,
then maybe a reminder later like "Remember when I slapped
your ass for being stupid? huh?"
A sting perhaps?
Well I don't have kids, but that's what I'd probably do.
It's also how I was raised- but I think the only
way to be able to surely know is to raise one.
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I think it depends on the kid your raising. Obviously my best example comes from my parents as I don't have kids.
I was a defiant little bastard and got hit once in awhile. My brother was responsive to scoldings and felt bad about his behavior without needing to be hit, ever. so he wasn't.
There are proven ways to evoke desired behavior so I figure when I have kids I will go with that first and if they need to be hit once in awhile so be it.
As for the line b/t abuse and an aducational correction. I think an open hand slap with a valid reason = edu correc. anything else is abuse.
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When my 6yo daughter does something wrong she knows she has it coming. I strip her naked, tie her legs together and then hoist her upside down in the backyard walnut tree. I taze her in the tummy and the punishment is exacted in seconds of zap, or until she gets the message. If the tazer battery depletes along the way I get my belt and finish off like that. But never with the buckle, thats just cruel.
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That said: where do you people draw the line between an educational correction and child abuse?
Well, I can't speak for all 'us' people, but
I draw the line when it leaves a mark.
I only spank my kids on the bottom and
*before* I've lost my patience. I warn them
and I try to put them in time-out first but,
honestly, sometimes I don't want to spend
80% of my day doing warnings and time-outs
as I'd quickly go insane and I've found that a swift spanking or the threat of one is
just so much more effective in getting your children to behave.
The goal is to get them to think for
themselves, remember the rules and follow them
...not to have them rely on you as their conscience.
Where you'll be constantly directing their behavior and thinking for them.
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I think only the parents should have the right to punish their child, however they deem necessary, as long as it doesn't constitute abuse.
Educational establishments should have no such power.
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Quote:
Wiccan_Seeker said:
where do you people draw the line between an educational correction and child abuse?
at anger, I do not discipline my children when I'm angry, I dont
do it to teach them a lesson, if they're not paying attention to
what I'm telling them, that's when they get popped on the butt,
it's rarely more than one. if they try to push it past that
point, it becomes a waiting game, they can sit in their room and
wait, there's no toys to play with, no TV or games, it's a
boring wait, when they're ready to listen we can continue with
discipline. I also do not scream at my kids, I'm a quiet guy,
when I have to raise my voice they know I'm about to become much
more serious with anything that follows.
spankings dont repair a broken window, that's when it's time to
talk about why and how? why did it happen? how can we prevent it
in the future? why is dad displeased? how can we keep him from
having a coronary?
I always talk to them about consequences of action, why they're
being punished and what led up to it, I try t teach them to look
ahead of the immediate act and what the outcome may be
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I really think it depends on the kid. If he or she will stop inappropriate behavior and stop doing it in the future with a mere scolding, that's good enough.
If he or she isn't responsive to that, though, an open hand spanking is fine.
I'm not a big fan or people using weapons like belts, paddles, or wooden spoons, though. I don't think that is acceptable.
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Quote:
Apollyphelion said:
For me: Enough to illicit real tears, and fear,
you dont earn respect through fear, you earn resentment
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Re: Spank? or No Spank? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#8600240 - 07/06/08 10:02 AM (4 months, 28 days ago) |
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Re: Spank? or No Spank? [Re: Cepheus]
#8600252 - 07/06/08 10:07 AM (4 months, 28 days ago) |
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Quote:
Cepheus said:
I think only the parents should have the right to punish their child, however they deem necessary, as long as it doesn't constitute abuse.
Educational establishments should have no such power.
I remember when I was in school, kids were subject to corporal
punishment, teachers didnt fear their students and students
we're shooting their classmates over sneakers or who was more emo
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Re: Spank? or No Spank? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#8600266 - 07/06/08 10:13 AM (4 months, 28 days ago) |
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I don't have children, and I honestly don't know if I could bring myself to spank one if I did, but I hope that I can. I would have been a little bastard if I hadn't been spanked. I would draw the line if I did it out of emotion and not the want for them to learn right from wrong.
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Re: Spank? or No Spank? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#8600276 - 07/06/08 10:17 AM (4 months, 28 days ago) |
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I believe there is a difference between a spank, a slap or a backhand. . . You don't have to hurt your kid for them to get the message. Hitting your kids because you're mad is ridiculous! As an adult you should be able to compose yourself and not fight someone who can't fight back! Thus said there is nothing wrong with giving your kid a swat on the butt or hand when they know they've done something wrong. If your kid doesn't understand that what they are doing is wrong you need to make that clear BEFORE you punish them or else even a swat can be deemed abuse.
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spankings dont repair a broken window, that's when it's time to
talk about why and how? why did it happen? how can we prevent it
in the future? why is dad displeased? how can we keep him from
having a coronary?
I always talk to them about consequences of action, why they're
being punished and what led up to it, I try t teach them to look
ahead of the immediate act and what the outcome may be
Funny and true.
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Re: Spank? or No Spank? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#8600290 - 07/06/08 10:21 AM (4 months, 28 days ago) |
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Quote:
Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:
Wiccan_Seeker said:
where do you people draw the line between an educational correction and child abuse?
at anger, I do not discipline my children when I'm angry, I dont
do it to teach them a lesson, if they're not paying attention to
what I'm telling them, that's when they get popped on the butt,
it's rarely more than one. if they try to push it past that
point, it becomes a waiting game, they can sit in their room and
wait, there's no toys to play with, no TV or games, it's a
boring wait, when they're ready to listen we can continue with
discipline. I also do not scream at my kids, I'm a quiet guy,
when I have to raise my voice they know I'm about to become much
more serious with anything that follows.
spankings dont repair a broken window, that's when it's time to
talk about why and how? why did it happen? how can we prevent it
in the future? why is dad displeased? how can we keep him from
having a coronary?
I always talk to them about consequences of action, why they're
being punished and what led up to it, I try t teach them to look
ahead of the immediate act and what the outcome may be
There is the answer.
Keep the kids' room free of anything that will provide them entertainment in the event of a timeout. I remember when I was growing up, I had a computer, tv, and books in my room and when my mom would send me to my room, it wasn't a punishment at all.
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