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OfflineJack Albertson
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The War On Drugs
    #8418769 - 05/19/08 12:10 AM (3 months, 10 days ago)

Since the U.S declared war on drugs, as drug users and enthusiasts are we entitled to fight back? And wouldnt that make anyone put in jail for drug charges a prisoner of war? I thought the U.S didnt take prisoners of war. Aside from gitmo.


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Re: The War On Drugs [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #8418771 - 05/19/08 12:11 AM (3 months, 10 days ago)

drugs r bad mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmkay


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Re: The War On Drugs [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #8418772 - 05/19/08 12:11 AM (3 months, 10 days ago)

It's called civil disobedience and yeah you do to go jail for it.


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Re: The War On Drugs [Re: Coaster]
    #8418773 - 05/19/08 12:11 AM (3 months, 10 days ago)

thanx mr mackey.


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Re: The War On Drugs [Re: learningtofly]
    #8418776 - 05/19/08 12:12 AM (3 months, 10 days ago)

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learningtofly said:
It's called civil disobedience and yeah you do to go jail for it.


Im looking at this whole things as a literal war. With two parties fighting against one another. Who's fighting against the government in this war, by doing something other than possessing drugs?


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Re: The War On Drugs [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #8418782 - 05/19/08 12:14 AM (3 months, 10 days ago)

Well if its a war then the Govt simply kills us all and wins.


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Re: The War On Drugs [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #8418791 - 05/19/08 12:16 AM (3 months, 10 days ago)

i think that's bullshit. One sided wars are for pussies.


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Re: The War On Drugs [Re: learningtofly]
    #8418794 - 05/19/08 12:16 AM (3 months, 10 days ago)

LOL "The US doesn't take prisoners of war"

do as I say not as I do


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Re: The War On Drugs [Re: learningtofly]
    #8418806 - 05/19/08 12:20 AM (3 months, 10 days ago)

i know that they do, but is it in the policy to do so?


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Re: The War On Drugs [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #8418815 - 05/19/08 12:23 AM (3 months, 10 days ago)

Yeah but we dont really pay attention to the "rules" we make. See: Half the shit America has done. Ex. Korea/Vietnam were never technically wars, Gulf of Tonkin never happened, etc, etc.


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Re: The War On Drugs [Re: learningtofly]
    #8418830 - 05/19/08 12:28 AM (3 months, 10 days ago)

what a fantastic place. in soviet russia you dont declare a war on drugs, drugs declare war on you.


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Re: The War On Drugs [Re: learningtofly]
    #8418831 - 05/19/08 12:29 AM (3 months, 10 days ago)

The "war on drugs" is more similar to the inquisition or "witch hunts" than a war.

One could also say the "war on drugs" is a kinder, gentler holocaust, just like in the 3rd reich, there is obvious use of propaganda, a general view of drug users as being inferior beings that have no value living or dead, drug users are imprisoned very long periods of time for committing no actual crime in much the same way as Jews were rounded up and imprisoned for committing no actual crime. Drug users doors are kicked in and people imprisoned for committing no actual crime in much the same way Jews homes were invaded and Jews were imprisoned for committing no actual crime.

Those who do not know their history are bound to repeat it, and you wonder why the government doesn't want educated informed citizens?


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“There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them". -Ayn Rand

“Useless laws weaken the necessary laws.”
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The thesis that I want to advance today is that the drug war and the laws that prohibit the private consumption of certain drugs are unconstitutional. Prohibition laws, themselves, violate every tenet of limited government that is embodied in our Constitution.
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Re: The War On Drugs [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #8418833 - 05/19/08 12:29 AM (3 months, 10 days ago)

Isn't LSD legal for medical purposes in Russia?

HEY WAIT A MINUTE SOVIET RUSSIA DOESNT EVEN EXIST ANYMORE!


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Re: The War On Drugs [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #8418848 - 05/19/08 12:32 AM (3 months, 10 days ago)

for the sake of yakov smirnoff it does exist. And thank you chemy, very well said.


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Re: The War On Drugs [Re: Chemy]
    #8418886 - 05/19/08 12:43 AM (3 months, 10 days ago)

Interesting parallels. I've never really thought of the "War on Drugs" like this before.

The WWII juxtaposition ties more with the "War on Drugs", but I feel as though the witch hunts are quite similar to how drugs have been treated historically in various societies.


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Re: The War On Drugs [Re: PinballWizard]
    #8418896 - 05/19/08 12:45 AM (3 months, 10 days ago)

Is the history of drugs in other countries nearly as depressing? Ive always thought other countries had a decent past with drugs.


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Re: The War On Drugs [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #8419054 - 05/19/08 02:19 AM (3 months, 10 days ago)

A lot of countries look to the US for guidance on drug policy :frown:

But sometimes it's the other way around! Salvia is illegal in Australia, but I heard it's legal in the US? But a Californian senator gave a speech about Salvia and said something like "the Australians have banned it!" as if that's justification for banning it in the US. Here's a hint Mr Senator: it's not.


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Re: The War On Drugs [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #8419060 - 05/19/08 02:25 AM (3 months, 10 days ago)

We need to engineer a self-replicating super drug that can operate heavy machinery and launch attacks on the DEA. :minigun:


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Re: The War On Drugs [Re: Chemy]
    #8419186 - 05/19/08 05:03 AM (3 months, 9 days ago)

Quote:

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The "war on drugs" is more similar to the inquisition or "witch hunts" than a war.

One could also say the "war on drugs" is a kinder, gentler holocaust, just like in the 3rd reich, there is obvious use of propaganda, a general view of drug users as being inferior beings that have no value living or dead, drug users are imprisoned very long periods of time for committing no actual crime in much the same way as Jews were rounded up and imprisoned for committing no actual crime. Drug users doors are kicked in and people imprisoned for committing no actual crime in much the same way Jews homes were invaded and Jews were imprisoned for committing no actual crime.

Those who do not know their history are bound to repeat it, and you wonder why the government doesn't want educated informed citizens?




But jews corrupt our youths with their crazy jew music and subvert their thinking with sinester jew propoganda. It's a gateway to harder stuff like kabalism and muslim addiction. Hitler would never lie about the jews, and Bush+the daily mail+rest of the smug world would never lie about drugs. How dare you question your government! Off to gitmo for you so you can learn the value of FREEDOM.


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Re: The War On Drugs [Re: Visionary Tools]
    #8419187 - 05/19/08 05:05 AM (3 months, 9 days ago)

A world where this is true satire is a sad world.


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