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 atransienthowl
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 Hi everyone. I am new and I have an urgent question and concern
#8381350 - 05/09/08 11:05 AM (3 months, 27 days ago) |
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So,I have been smoking weed for about 4 years now and lately I have been noticing something very very odd.
People treat me completely differently when I am high that when I am sober. I'll be sober and just havin a good time laughin with people and hten once I get high, it starts seeming like everyone else is on a different page than I am. Its like they have this vibe thats saying "you are not being cool right now man", or "this guy is fake or being fake", or "we want you to leave".
It really confuses me and to be honest, its kind of damaging to me, to my sense of self. I feel like nowadays everytime I get high I start thinking way to much and people will look at me so completely differently, but then again once I get high I notice I get quieter and nearly everything and anything I say i don't get a response to. Its almost like everyone just turns their back on me or something simultaneously. I remember a specific incident where these two guys were conversing during a smash bros game and i was in the middle of both of them and then they leaned back away from my field of view, peripheral you could say, and they slapped hands and one said "way to BE, man way to BE" and he like put emphasis on the "be" word almost trying to convey a message to me like I'm being really not cool or fake or something!
The thing is guys, I know that its not the people, I know it is me, BUT I DON"T UNDERSTAND WHY. I can hang out with anyone and be like the coolest, most chillest most fun guy to be aorund, and then once I get a little high from the herb its almost like EVERYOONE in the room will turn their back on me. and whats wierd is I never see this happen to any other person i've ever met smoking weed. I don't get it, i really dont
I need help really badly because i dont want to live my life like this anymore, please anything you guys can add to this is appreciated. and has anyone been in or currently in a similar situation? thank you for your replys
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Re: Hi everyone. I am new and I have an urgent question and concern [Re: atransienthowl]
#8381360 - 05/09/08 11:09 AM (3 months, 27 days ago) |
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wow that sounds scary. why dont you just stop getting high?
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Re: Hi everyone. I am new and I have an urgent question and concern [Re: atransienthowl]
#8381361 - 05/09/08 11:10 AM (3 months, 27 days ago) |
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how old are you?
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gluke bastid
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Re: Hi everyone. I am new and I have an urgent question and concern [Re: atransienthowl]
#8381368 - 05/09/08 11:11 AM (3 months, 27 days ago) |
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Seems pretty obvious to me that smoking weed makes you socially paranoid. No big suprise there, because the same thing happens to EVERYONE who smokes weed. It's part of what marijuana does.
Dude its all in your head. You can either keep getting high with people and learn to deal with the paranoia, only start getting high alone so the presence of other people won't fuck with your head, or stop getting stoned.
The main thing to remember is that its the drug that is doing this, and it happens to everyone else who smokes weed too. It is why I gave the shit up after years.
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Re: Hi everyone. I am new and I have an urgent question and concern [Re: atransienthowl]
#8381373 - 05/09/08 11:13 AM (3 months, 27 days ago) |
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I know that I'm more self-conscious when I'm high, and this makes me give off a more suspicious vibe that I believe others can sense. Do you feel comfortable in social situations when you're high? From your example it sounds like you get a bit paranoid.
People are quite keen at detecting the mindset of others, even if they don't know they're doing it. I suspect people pick up on your paranoia and reciprocate it. I'm sure it happens all the time.
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Re: Hi everyone. I am new and I have an urgent question and concern [Re: Atheist]
#8381374 - 05/09/08 11:13 AM (3 months, 27 days ago) |
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It sounds like your friends don't smoke. And that's how a lot of those kind of people act. you seem to me that your in highschool still too, although I don't really know. I remember back in high school I was at a party where everyone was drinking. I didn't feel like drinking so I got high. I entered the room and everyone treated me like an alien. a girl was like "So Chris, how are YOU feeling?" I was pissed that she was being so immature. People acted like they were better than me.
Point is, you either need to stop smoking around these people or find new friends.
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Re: Hi everyone. I am new and I have an urgent question and concern [Re: gluke bastid]
#8381376 - 05/09/08 11:14 AM (3 months, 27 days ago) |
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I have never gotten any kind of paranoia from weed.
Must be just me 
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Re: Hi everyone. I am new and I have an urgent question and concern [Re: Atheist]
#8381382 - 05/09/08 11:16 AM (3 months, 27 days ago) |
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Quote:
Atheist said:
why dont you just stop getting high?
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Re: Hi everyone. I am new and I have an urgent question and concern [Re: gluke bastid]
#8381389 - 05/09/08 11:18 AM (3 months, 27 days ago) |
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Quote:
gluke bastid said:
Seems pretty obvious to me that smoking weed makes you socially paranoid. No big suprise there, because the same thing happens to EVERYONE who smokes weed. It's part of what marijuana does.
Dude its all in your head. You can either keep getting high with people and learn to deal with the paranoia, only start getting high alone so the presence of other people won't fuck with your head, or stop getting stoned.
The main thing to remember is that its the drug that is doing this, and it happens to everyone else who smokes weed too. It is why I gave the shit up after years.
I beg to differ, smoking makes me socially confident, though I am sure I am part of the minority on this issue. You are probably correct in this case though.
My advice is for you to smoke alone for a while, or with folks who aren't judgmental. I remember when I got high the first few times, I was like "Wow, I'm dumb" then I realized, I was just with a group of people who were on different wavelengths, and had different priorities in life. Sometimes when I'm high, I just want to talk about stupid shit, other times I want to have a deep philosophical discussion. Surround yourself with people who can understand ya.
and yeah, how old are you?
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Re: Hi everyone. I am new and I have an urgent question and concern [Re: gluke bastid]
#8381390 - 05/09/08 11:18 AM (3 months, 27 days ago) |
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Quote:
gluke bastid said:
Seems pretty obvious to me that smoking weed makes you socially paranoid. No big suprise there, because the same thing happens to EVERYONE who smokes weed. It's part of what marijuana does.
I don't think that's true. I feel just as comfortable in a social situation high or not.
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Re: Hi everyone. I am new and I have an urgent question and concern [Re: Stizzle]
#8381396 - 05/09/08 11:21 AM (3 months, 27 days ago) |
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It completely depends on the individual, and even a bit on what exactly he's smoking.
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Re: Hi everyone. I am new and I have an urgent question and concern [Re: atransienthowl]
#8381407 - 05/09/08 11:23 AM (3 months, 27 days ago) |
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the easiest thing to do is to quit smoking. but if you choose not to, you got to realize that any confusion you have concerning your friends and you "being cool" is all made up in your mind and its a waste to over analyze so much. just chill...
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Re: Hi everyone. I am new and I have an urgent question and concern [Re: atransienthowl]
#8381410 - 05/09/08 11:24 AM (3 months, 27 days ago) |
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It is a simple answer to a complex situation!?
(1) Marijuana: You need to seriously take a break from smoking.
(2) You need to look at yourself (i.e Are YOU happy with yourself?!) You said yourself "I know it is me, BUT I DON"T UNDERSTAND WHY" It is possible that you are so unhappy where you are in life (i.e. with yourself, environment, financially) that you are creating this paranoid situation where everyone is against you that onlt surfaces during smoking.
or does it?
Have you EVER had that same feeling while alone?
Is it always there but, not very strong while sober?
is it with certain friends?
Also, what is your age?
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Re: Hi everyone. I am new and I have an urgent question and concern [Re: Xeluc]
#8381466 - 05/09/08 11:38 AM (3 months, 26 days ago) |
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Quote:
Xeluc said:
I entered the room and everyone treated me like an alien. a girl was like "So Chris, how are YOU feeling?" I was pissed that she was being so immature. People acted like they were better than me.
Yea dude, that pisses me off so much when people do that when you're high, If i'm like the only ones who's blazed, i feel like everyone is keepin an eye on me, waiting for me to do somethin stupid, or eat a whole bag of cheetos so they can start laughing
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Re: Hi everyone. I am new and I have an urgent question and concern [Re: MrReedz]
#8381537 - 05/09/08 11:53 AM (3 months, 26 days ago) |
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OK you guys have helped me so incredibly much omg i think my prayers are being answered.
ok before i answer questions I just want it to be known that I am perfectly fine with myslef and where I am at in life. I am an 18 year old college student btw....When I used to smoke back in highschool and even during the summer, whenever I got high I was TOTALLY cool with it and whoever I was around I used to smoke and go to school high and I would skate high with friends and be aound people that were sober and be compeltely blazed. Its so wierd to me you guys its like...ok so I'll be at a party setting right, and Ill be buzzing off some brews or whatever(btw I have absolutely NO problem with this and drinking, drinking is fun as hell!) and then people will be smoking weed right. SO ill be thinking to myself "ok if I hit this weed will Is tart acting all sketch as fuck like I have sometimes in the past or will I be cool?" and I wont even really answer the question and Ill just take the hit, a few sometimes. then like 2 3 4 5 minutes later after the hit, Ill get SOOOO caught up in my head and thinking about what I'm doing and how im projecting myself, and if I seem like im being sketchy or not, and if people are picking up on what Im thinking about them and myself. then its like this downward spiral from there and one by one Ill liek feel people turning their backs on me.
Its like, I am a completely different person when I get high now you guys. People love me when I am sober I feel like i am such a good guy and just outgoing and fun to be around when I am sober, but when i take a hit of weed around people it slike a whole new me comes out, a terrible me. This NEVER used to happen to me when I was younger, from 14 all the wya up to being 18 in the summer and then it started happening to me. But whats really wierd is it wont happen to me EVERYSINGLETIME. like 8/10 if I get high around a bunch of other people, especially people I dont know that well, everyone just like turns their back on me and sometimes I will even be listening to people talk and they will be talking about this crazy ass scenarios that dont make sense to me and like eveyrone will get it except me and then Ill be thinking to myself "is this like a code language for talking shit about me right now?" and even sometimes people will say things refering to me, that are negative and I know they are saying them to me but i don't know how to respond because the truth i, the honest truth is, is, I know I am being sketchy, I can feel it in my heart and every cell in my body.
I am determined to get answer btw you guys, so my writing might be really all over the place and confused but im typing really fast and just wan tot get this out.
mr reedz you have very good questions i will attempt to answer them.
your first question "It is possible that you are so unhappy where you are in life (i.e. with yourself, environment, financially) that you are creating this paranoid situation where everyone is against you that onlt surfaces during smoking.
asnwer: thie thing is, I LOVE LIFE. I consider truly myself to be a great person. I am the type of person who is always trying to progress in life, whether its giving wise words to people, learning all I can about myself, other people adn this world, getting better at basketball, skateboarding, lifting wieghts other physical activities etc. I pray at night, I am very into dreams and lucid dreaming and I consider myself to be a very unique person, but htne, its like when I smoke weed, Ill get indescribably into my head and wierd thoughts will come up about how I am acting even when I am high by myself, and this is all hapening recently. And actually, i KNOW these irrational thoughts only come up when I smoke.
even when I am alone i get aught up in my head wheter with people or not, but the feeligns are WAY more intense and severe while around other people.
i am thinking, I just need to stop smoking aorund people. In the past when this has happened to me, ill think to myself "man you need to stop smoking, if you want this sudden sketchy act to stop and keep people from thinking you are some wierd fake guy". but then ill just override that emotion and get high again by myself or around other people and shit will be cool.
i guess whats going on is I know deep within myself I just need to stop but I guess im just looking for some answers as to why this happpens to me ONLY when I smoke weed, and reassurance from other people I guess becuase this isn't something i feel liek I could just ask a friend or csomeone close without making them think about me completely differently, ya know?
all replys are exteremly appreciated you guys
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Re: Hi everyone. I am new and I have an urgent question and concern [Re: atransienthowl]
#8381599 - 05/09/08 12:06 PM (3 months, 26 days ago) |
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In my experience, marijuana makes you think too much, and thinking too much makes every situation seem more problematic than it is.
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~ R.W. Emerson, "Self-Reliance"
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Re: Hi everyone. I am new and I have an urgent question and concern [Re: atransienthowl]
#8381628 - 05/09/08 12:11 PM (3 months, 26 days ago) |
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I dont know if this will come as any help to you, but when i was quite a bit younger i used to get really sketched around people when i was high, even friends that got high with me. Id be paranoid and use eye drops, take sowers brush my teeth, breath mints, calone, like way over the top paranoid.
A few years ago tho, when i started college, i started to relax, and around that time whas when i got into mushrooms. Now im not saying you have to trip to lose your paranoia, but for me it just came as a side effect.
I was always a somewhat introverted person, only saying stuff that i had a strong opinion on. Im not one to shoot the shit by talking, i find it quite pointless. So with that and the paranoia i was, and still am a quiet guy. But along the lines of my trips, i began not to care.
Nowadays, ill walk around, and do all my errands, with severely blood shot eyes, and strong aroma. It just doesn't matter. But i never, NEVER carry anything when im like that, for obvious reasons. All of my friends and family respect me for who i am, and what i have accomplished in life. Everyone else can fuck themselves.
If the crowd you hang with doesn't respect you for who you are, what you have done, and what you intend to do, id find new friends. I have had friends who had problems with my pot use, but, they got over it when they saw it had no effect on my day to day life. Im still a contributing member for the most part, and that all that matters.
Best of luck, and i hope this helped. Good vibes.
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Re: Hi everyone. I am new and I have an urgent question and concern [Re: ThirdEyeOpening]
#8381663 - 05/09/08 12:20 PM (3 months, 26 days ago) |
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face your fears
change em into something GOOD
be a leader
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Re: Hi everyone. I am new and I have an urgent question and concern [Re: atransienthowl]
#8381668 - 05/09/08 12:21 PM (3 months, 26 days ago) |
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Quote:
atransienthowl said:
So,I have been smoking weed for about 4 years now and lately I have been noticing something very very odd.
People treat me completely differently when I am high that when I am sober. I'll be sober and just havin a good time laughin with people and hten once I get high, it starts seeming like everyone else is on a different page than I am. Its like they have this vibe thats saying "you are not being cool right now man", or "this guy is fake or being fake", or "we want you to leave".
It really confuses me and to be honest, its kind of damaging to me, to my sense of self. I feel like nowadays everytime I get high I start thinking way to much and people will look at me so completely differently, but then again once I get high I notice I get quieter and nearly everything and anything I say i don't get a response to. Its almost like everyone just turns their back on me or something simultaneously. I remember a specific incident where these two guys were conversing during a smash bros game and i was in the middle of both of them and then they leaned back away from my field of view, peripheral you could say, and they slapped hands and one said "way to BE, man way to BE" and he like put emphasis on the "be" word almost trying to convey a message to me like I'm being really not cool or fake or something!
The thing is guys, I know that its not the people, I know it is me, BUT I DON"T UNDERSTAND WHY. I can hang out with anyone and be like the coolest, most chillest most fun guy to be aorund, and then once I get a little high from the herb its almost like EVERYOONE in the room will turn their back on me. and whats wierd is I never see this happen to any other person i've ever met smoking weed. I don't get it, i really dont
I need help really badly because i dont want to live my life like this anymore, please anything you guys can add to this is appreciated. and has anyone been in or currently in a similar situation? thank you for your replys
SIMPLE: In quantum terms, you create your reality.
When you smoke it is obvious to me that you become self conscious, this happens to many (many many many many many)people. Once you become self conscious your confidence level decreases. When you are around people, they can subconsciously read this energy that you are projecting. Through your eyes, through your body gestures, through your voice, etc, etc. And thus people subconsciously react to the energy you feed them.
The Dog Whisperer brings up the same point to dog owners that he helps. Many people try to scold their dogs but their internal confidense is not that of an alpha, of a pack leader. The dog senses this and takes your commands with a piece of grain. But once he teaches people to change their internal attitudes, the dog feels this dominant energy and becomes submissive.
Option 1: Stop Smoking
Option 2: Stop Smoking With People
Option 3: Try to work through it (This option might actually decrease your confidence level.
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Re: Hi everyone. I am new and I have an urgent question and concern [Re: ThirdEyeOpening]
#8381686 - 05/09/08 12:27 PM (3 months, 26 days ago) |
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Your paranoia around other people is what is causing these feelings. It's easy to get caught up in your own head when you're high.
Just chill out and quit smoking around other people for now.
Unless you're actually doing something sketch, you should be fine. I've gone out to eat with my parents high as a kite and they've never noticed.
It's in your head, dude.
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