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insectvhore
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no one shall be able to buy or sell unless he has the mark
#5182062 - 01/14/06 11:57 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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blehh... this is my shout-out to the Morning Star six years six months six days
edit: birthday party for the devil!! i scream you scream we all scream for ice cream
Edited by The Insect Priest (01/15/06 07:51 AM)
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Re: no one shall be able to buy or sell unless he has the mark [Re: insectvhore]
#5182150 - 01/15/06 12:20 AM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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i dont get it for you mean june 6th of 2006? and i dont understand the bible thumpers thinking that a microchip=the mark of the beast. the book was writen 2000 years ago (give or take) the only technology they had was the ability to draw water out of a well, how would they be able to predict microchips?
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Re: no one shall be able to buy or sell unless he has the mark [Re: insectvhore]
#5182187 - 01/15/06 12:39 AM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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my name?
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Re: no one shall be able to buy or sell unless he has the mark [Re: insectvhore]
#5182205 - 01/15/06 12:48 AM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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I am familiar with some different interpretations of that passage in revelations. 666 in numerology is Master number symbolic of mastering the material realm. Others believe, its just a time when we tame the beast of the material world that enslaved us and take mastery over it. It's actually a good prophecy to some people signifying a mastery of sorts, not a doom and gloom one.
Well, Revelations is either going to be read literally or metaphorically and if so it becomes subject to interpretation. I just wanted to share one I've come across a lot that paints a more positive picture for others to consider.
Who knows for sure what it meant, what John saw, or what the Catholics edited in and out along the way.
I'm stoked up about 2006!
That was funny lemon-
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Re: no one shall be able to buy or sell unless he has the mark [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
#5182214 - 01/15/06 12:57 AM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Woe to you Oh Earth and Sea for the Devil sends the beast with wrath because he knows the time is short Let him who hath understanding reckon the number of the beast for it is a human number its number is six hundred and sixty six.
I left alone my mind was blank I needed time to think to get the memories from my mind
What did I see can I believe that what I saw that night was real and not just fantasy
Just what I saw in my old dreams were they reflections of my warped mind staring back at me
Cuz' in my dreams it's always there the evil face that twists my mind and brings me to despair
The night was black was no use holding back Cuz' I just had to see was someone watching me In the mist dark figures move and twist was all this for real or just some kind of hell 666 the Number of the Beast Hell and fire was spawned to be released
Torches blazed and sacred chants were praised as they start to cry hands held to the sky In the night the fires burning bright the ritual has begun Satan's work is done 666 the Number of the Beast Sacrifice is going on tonight
This can't go on I must inform the law Can this still be real or just some crazy dream but I feel drawn towards the evil chanting hordes they seem to mesmerise me...can't avoid their eyes 666 the Number of the Beast 666 the one for you and me
I'm coming back I will return And I'll possess your body and I'll make you burn I have the fire I have the force I have the power to make my evil take its course
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Re: no one shall be able to buy or sell unless he has the mark [Re: Snaggletooth]
#5182229 - 01/15/06 01:09 AM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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I wish I had never read this post as I have always been afraid of the end of time anyway. Oh bother! lol
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Re: no one shall be able to buy or sell unless he has the mark [Re: lemon_lw]
#5182234 - 01/15/06 01:16 AM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
lemon_lw said: i dont get it for you mean june 6th of 2006? and i dont understand the bible thumpers thinking that a microchip=the mark of the beast. the book was writen 2000 years ago (give or take) the only technology they had was the ability to draw water out of a well, how would they be able to predict microchips?
research the library at alexandria, it may suprise you how advanced society was pre-catholic incursion, hero demonstrated a crude steam engine there at about that 130 BC.
Hero - pneumatics http://www.history.rochester.edu/steam/hero/
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Re: no one shall be able to buy or sell unless he has the mark [Re: Prisoner#1]
#5182249 - 01/15/06 01:30 AM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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i know pris, i was using very loosly. just the other day i saw a thing about how they used vinger to creat the first battery way back when and then used the electric currents to fuse gold to coins. but thank you for sharing the link ill read it tommorow cause im to tired to think about much right now.
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Re: no one shall be able to buy or sell unless he has the mark [Re: lemon_lw]
#5182258 - 01/15/06 01:35 AM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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damn you educated types
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Re: no one shall be able to buy or sell unless he has the mark [Re: lemon_lw]
#5182285 - 01/15/06 01:48 AM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
lemon_lw said: i dont get it for you mean june 6th of 2006? and i dont understand the bible thumpers thinking that a microchip=the mark of the beast. the book was writen 2000 years ago (give or take) the only technology they had was the ability to draw water out of a well, how would they be able to predict microchips?
You seem to forget the fact that the book we're referring to is dealing with the words of a god to whom time is irrelevant. God, being omnipotent, would know if it were to be microchips. God would know every detail of every event down to the quantum particle level and beyond.
The person being spoken to by god was limited to their experience, so in order to effectively communicate to them, god would need to speak to them in terms they understand. This is why Jesus spoke of things common to people of the time, this is why revelations is filled with metaphorical animals and sights, because the author was only capable of comprehending the context within those bounds, such was the overload of information.
It's not exactly fair to criticize the bible based upon it's age. When dealing with an omnipotent God, time does not even matter. Omnipotence dictates that time is entirely irrelevant. An omnipotent god can see 1000BC just as clearly as, and simultaneously to, seeing 30,000 AD. Furthermore such a god is fully able to exert full and total control over every moment of time that will ever occur. All at once.
Given this fact, the age of the bible begins to seem like far less of an excuse to call it tripe. Also, the predictions made for the future based upon it's content are easier to understand.
However, every generation of humanity tends to be a bit arrogant in that they assume their era is so important that the end must be near. To be honest the problems we see as being potential signs of the apocalypse are just petty piles of shit much like that which every generation has endured.
Any christian knows that god told us the end will come without warning and very suddenly. It's a petty waste to keep trying to ignore that fact and predict the apocalypse.
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Re: no one shall be able to buy or sell unless he has the mark [Re: Konnrade]
#5182456 - 01/15/06 04:12 AM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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great post, man!
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Re: no one shall be able to buy or sell unless he has the mark [Re: In(di)go]
#5182612 - 01/15/06 07:50 AM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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haha all i meant was it was my six year, six month, six day anniversary.. but good job making it all smart.. i think ill celebrate in the only way i can.....
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Re: no one shall be able to buy or sell unless he has the mark [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
#5182684 - 01/15/06 08:43 AM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Younger_Edda "The Prose Edda, known also as the Younger Edda or Snorri's Edda is an Icelandic manual of poetics which also contains many mythological stories. Its purpose was to enable Icelandic poets and readers to understand the subtleties of alliterative (metaphoric?) verse, and to grasp the meaning behind the many kennings that were used in skaldic poetry."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iotnar Ragnar?k and the fire giants "A certain class of giants were the fire giants, said to reside in Muspelheim, the world of heat and fire, ruled by the fire giant Surtur ("the black one") and his queen Sinmore. Fornj?t, the incarnation of fire, was another of their kind. The main role of the fire giants in Norse mythology is to wreak the final destruction of the world by setting fire to the world tree Yggdrasil at the end of Ragnar?k,"
Oddly, 'Pyr' directly translates to 'eat'.
The funeral pyre, pyramid. One can see how a pyramid 'eats' by incorporation.
http://dontgohere.nu/oe/as-bt/read.htm?page_nr=1086 ?yrre; adj. I. dry, lacking water:-On ?yrran m?r?, Cod. Dip. Kmbl. v. 117, 5. II. lacking sap or moisture:-?ornas ?yre
?yrs, es; m. A giant, an enchanter
" The main role of the fire giants in Norse mythology is to wreak the final destruction of the world by setting fire to the world tree Yggdrasil at the end of Ragnar?k," then is a metaphore to an incorporation
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Edited by Booby (01/15/06 03:33 PM)
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Re: no one shall be able to buy or sell unless he has the mark [Re: insectvhore]
#5182700 - 01/15/06 08:51 AM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yaaaaaay, fairy tale time!
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Re: no one shall be able to buy or sell unless he has the mark [Re: Booby]
#5182705 - 01/15/06 08:53 AM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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damn... that's hella_informative
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Re: no one shall be able to buy or sell unless he has the mark [Re: DNKYD]
#5183142 - 01/15/06 11:27 AM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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you want a fairy tale?
"the fairy" you are sweet every part of you is just like your name like a flower like an angel like a name of a place written in fairy tales green meadows flowers abundant as far as the eye can see
your scent still lingers in me as if etched into this mind of mine is it still mine i wonder?
your skin soft smooth once i touch the thought of letting you go seems impossible yes, you are that irresistable
your eyes big aren't they like a window to your soul don't turn away why don't you let them meet mine don't turn away you blush you blush red you become how adorable how sweet just like your name
your smile your kisses so too sweet so too seductive i long for more i am dying of thirst yet i wish not to drink for it will wash away the taste of your lips
your voice your accent the way you speak kindda funny but that doesnt mean i dont like it kindda cute kindda sweet kindda kinky yeah, i like it too
the way you move the way you walk the way you dance like an angel decending from the heavens like a devil crawling from beneath what are you exactly, i wonder whatever it is i know im taken by you yeah, that i'm sure
fairy sweet fairy like your kisses like your smile like your grace like your name yes, my dear you are a delight yes, my dear you are sweet
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Re: no one shall be able to buy or sell unless he has the mark [Re: Booby]
#5183272 - 01/15/06 12:13 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Booby said:Oddly, 'Pyr' directly translates to 'eat'.
Well not directly: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iotnar "In Norse mythology, the giants were a mythological race with superhuman strength, described as standing in opposition to the gods, although they frequently mingled with or were even married to these, both ?sir and Vanir. Their stronghold is known as Utgard, and is situated in J?tunheimr, one of the nine worlds of Norse cosmology, separated from Midgard, the world of men, by high mountains and dense forests. When living in other worlds than their own, they seem to prefer caves and dark places.
In Old Norse, they were called j?tnar (sing. j?tunn), or risar (sing. risi), in particular bergrisar, or ?ursar (sing. ?urs), in particular hr?m?ursar. A giantess could also be known as a g?gr.
J?tunn probably derives from the same root as "eat," and accordingly had the original meaning of "glutton" or "man-eater." Following the same logic, ?urs might be derivative of accutal "thirst" or "blood-thirst." Risi is probably akin to "rise," and so means "towering person." In Old English, the cognates to j?tunn are e?ten and eten, whence come the modern English ettin and J. R. R. Tolkien's creation Ent. Ettin is a false cognate with Yeti. [1] Old English also has the cognate ?yrs of the same meaning. [2]"
So I'm thinking the three pyramides at Giza represent three 'Incorporations' which may or may not represent three archetypes. What this has to do with anything I don't know; Except that the fire and burning is probably a metaphore for incorporation. Obviously the archetypes who have a good thing going wouldn't want to lose it, hence I suspect the presentation of ragnarok as such an awful cataclysm.
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Re: no one shall be able to buy or sell unless he has the mark [Re: Booby]
#5183445 - 01/15/06 01:19 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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2012. bible codes. mayan sun calander. isaac newton. mayan sun calander. fan base.
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Re: no one shall be able to buy or sell unless he has the mark [Re: insectvhore]
#5183521 - 01/15/06 01:42 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Fairy tales! Take your pick:



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Re: no one shall be able to buy or sell unless he has the mark [Re: DNKYD]
#5183543 - 01/15/06 01:48 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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your comments have superceded the cynical and have crossed into the blatantly disrespectful.
I have no problem with putting up with it, but I feel compelled to inform you that you ARE going to insult someone.
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