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InvisibleChe_Night_Soil
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Who were the first punk bands?
    #2354511 - 02/19/04 11:37 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Not to mimic, but does anyone know? The death metal thread reminded me that I had been wondering this. Thanks.
-Che


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Re: Who were the first punk bands? [Re: Che_Night_Soil]
    #2354595 - 02/19/04 12:00 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

hard to say who "came first" but the 1st generation generally developed in three cities between 1976-1978

in the uk: sex pistols, the clash, siouxie and the banshees, buzzcocks, etc.

in nyc: television, richard hell & the voidoids, talking heads, patti smith, etc.

in LA: germs, fear, catholic discipline, black randy and the metrosquad, bags, dils, weirdos, etc.



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Re: Who were the first punk bands? [Re: Xochitl]
    #2354954 - 02/19/04 01:49 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

That was a good answer. Pretty much along the lines of what I was thinking. I've always largely seen it as an attitude that developed in NYC in the mid-seventies, with bands like the New York Dolls, Television, and the Ramones, and then migrated... Perhaps, one might even trace it's spiritual roots to the Velvet Underground, but that might be reaching a bit...


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Re: Who were the first punk bands? [Re: Che_Night_Soil]
    #2354971 - 02/19/04 01:52 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

"Who created punk?
Was is the Sex Pistols in the UK
Or the Ramones in New York?

It was the Sex Pistols!

It was the Ramones!

ITS MUSIC!!!!

Who cares who started it?"

-SLC Punk


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Re: Who were the first punk bands? [Re: DoctorJ]
    #2355005 - 02/19/04 02:00 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks for the replies. I'm interested in getting punk records that predate the Ramones and the Sex Pistols...like the predecessors of later, more marketable punk, who never enjoyed much if any commercial success. Thanks.
-Che


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Re: Who were the first punk bands? [Re: Che_Night_Soil]
    #2355996 - 02/19/04 05:33 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: Who were the first punk bands? [Re: Xochitl]
    #2356219 - 02/19/04 06:20 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

in nyc: television, richard hell & the voidoids, talking heads, patti smith, etc.




I can't believe you didn't include the Ramones in there. :shake:


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Re: Who were the first punk bands? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2356675 - 02/19/04 07:53 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Neat-o. I've never heard that sound from a sixties band before. I'm going now to look for more of their stuff. Thanks.
-Che


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Re: Who were the first punk bands? [Re: Che_Night_Soil]
    #2356742 - 02/19/04 08:08 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

If you mean the punk attitude you can pin that all the way back to The Kinks and The Velvet Underground.


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Re: Who were the first punk bands? [Re: Che_Night_Soil]
    #2356870 - 02/19/04 08:40 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)




Over the course of its three-decade history, punk has consistently taken rock and roll's inherent rebelliousness and politicism and made those qualities violent and explicit. Its most obvious roots lie in the aggressive, sometimes abrasive rhythms of '60s garage rock, the theatricality of glam rock, the ironic nihilism of New York's The Velvet Underground and The New York Dolls, and the raw, visceral power of Detroit proto-punk icons The Stooges and MC5.

Punk rock as a genre unto itself exploded in late '70s England when angry working class kids, frustrated with the rigid norms and class polarization that ruled their country, formed fast, loud, primitive rock bands with names like The Buzzcocks, The Damned, The Clash, and The Sex Pistols, through which they expressed their rage and alienation. Similarly minded bands emerged all over the U.S. -- The Ramones in New York, The Dead Kennedys in San Francisco, and X and Black Flag in Los Angeles. These bands had different aesthetics, different agendas, and different sounds, but they were all united by their rejection of institutional authority, their penchant for self-destruction, and their music's raw, wounded emotional power.

As you might expect of such a huge social phenomenon, punk has been endlessly co-opted by mainstream culture. But as long as smart kids with challenging things to say can get their hands on noise-making devices, punk rock will endure.





Comon now people get with it. And by the way my favorite punk band is "Bad Brains"

Worst punk band ever is "Anti-flag"


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Re: Who were the first punk bands? [Re: d33p]
    #2357064 - 02/19/04 10:46 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

A friend of mine used to listen to Bad Brains a lot. While I remember them being good, I can't remember a specific album. What would you recommend as a reintroduction? Thanks.
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Re: Who were the first punk bands? [Re: Che_Night_Soil]
    #2357586 - 02/20/04 01:00 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Bad Brains fucking owns.

And so does Anti-Flag.


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Re: Who were the first punk bands? [Re: Che_Night_Soil]
    #2358852 - 02/20/04 10:10 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

I always considered The Stooges the first punk band.


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Re: Who were the first punk bands? [Re: Che_Night_Soil]
    #2358867 - 02/20/04 10:16 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

The second guy to ever play guitar invented punk rock.




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Re: Who were the first punk bands? [Re: Che_Night_Soil]
    #2358885 - 02/20/04 10:26 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Was not David Bowie considered one of the first . Ziggy Stardust days ......


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Re: Who were the first punk bands? [Re: tripndicular]
    #2359096 - 02/20/04 11:29 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Sorry dude, not even close.

Seriously though, it's impossible to say who the first punk group was. Many say The Stooges, The MC5 or The New York Dolls though.




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Re: Who were the first punk bands? [Re: Che_Night_Soil]
    #2359099 - 02/20/04 11:30 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

sex pistols ramones velvet underground
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Re: Who were the first punk bands? [Re: Che_Night_Soil]
    #2359114 - 02/20/04 11:33 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Descendents....they weren't the first, but they were back there


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Re: Who were the first punk bands? [Re: Che_Night_Soil]
    #2359118 - 02/20/04 11:33 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Bad Brains is more like reggae punk...but good stuff.. they are from my hometown..
I've only had one of their albums but it's a good one... God of Love


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Re: Who were the first punk bands? [Re: Che_Night_Soil]
    #2359304 - 02/20/04 12:35 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Its all about Lou Reed (The Velvet Underground) and Iggy Pop.


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