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 rawtoxic
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 Meth Dump Found
#6579000 - 02/17/07 04:20 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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http://www.peacearchnews.com/portals-code/list.cgi?paper=44&cat=23&id=834656&more=
By Kevin Diakiw
Feb 16 2007
Toxic chemicals jettisoned from clandestine drug labs are costing Surrey a bundle, and expenses are climbing as a three dumps were found this month.
A third meth dump was found in South Surrey Friday morning, at 28 Avenue and 184 Street, bringing to three the number of dumps found in Surrey in the past month.
Costs are significant. Surrey paid private firms more than $85,000 last year to clean up wastes from methamphetamine labs and marijuana grow operations.
Some of those costs are recovered from homeowners when labs are seized by police, but taxpayers are on the hook for chemicals dumped in public areas.
A lead company disposing of the wastes says business in the region has been booming.
Sean Barton, Project Co-ordinator with Hazco Environmental Services, said since 2005, toxic clean-up from clandestine labs and grow operations has jumped by about 30 per cent.
“We have seen an increase over the last two years in particular, both in labs that are busted by the RCMP and the dump sites,” Barton said.
“The dump sites are generated two different ways: either by an investigation that has spooked the owners or labs that are expended. They’re finished, they just want to get rid of everything and move on.”
Barton said the company’s environmental services division has grown by more than 30 per cent in two years and emergency response has become a full-time position.
Barton now heads up emergency response for the company.
He attended a recent toxic clean-up in Clayton, where about 20 barrels of toxic waste – believed to be remnants from a methamphetamine lab – were dumped at two locations.
“Our job is to identify, segregate, package for transport and then dispose of it,” Barton said.
Some of the more benign ingredients can be taken to special landfill sites, but the majority has to be burned at industrial incinerators in Swan Hills, Alberta.
Vivienne Wilke, Surrey’s general manager of finance and technology, said the city spent between $85,000 and $86,000 on clean up last year, including grow ops.
She expects the 2007 clean up costs to be higher after the Clayton dump.
It’s estimated the costs of that clean-up will be more than $50,000.
Mayor Dianne Watts said the city is in a tough position when it comes to chemicals dumped in remote areas.
“When they dump the material, they do it in the middle of the night in a remote area,” Watts said.
“So it’s very hard to catch these individuals.
“Unfortunately the city has had to pay for the expenses of cleaning it up.”
Edited by rawtoxic (02/17/07 04:24 PM)
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 fastfred
 
Registered: 05/17/04
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Loc: Dark side of the moon
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Re: Meth Dump Found [Re: rawtoxic]
#6579290 - 02/17/07 07:00 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Ha! all that wasted clean up money...
The WOD has made people think that meth waste is worse than nuclear waste. Anyone seen the recent "Dog, Bounty Hunter"? Dog finds a meth lab and disposes of it himself. He holds up a flask of the mother and takes a big sniff of it!
It's pretty funny. Biohazard suits and tens of thousands of dollars vs. "Dog" holding up a flask and saying "Yep, that's the mother."
-FF
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Nephlyte
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Re: Meth Dump Found [Re: rawtoxic]
#6579783 - 02/17/07 09:47 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
rawtoxic said:
http://www.peacearchnews.com/portals-code/list.cgi?paper=44&cat=23&id=834656&more=
Costs are significant. Surrey paid private firms more than $85,000 last year to clean up wastes from methamphetamine labs and marijuana grow operations.
Therefore marijuana = meth. Issue settled.
:rollseyes:
I'm sure 1000 bucks was spent(wasted) on marijuana grow operations and 84,000 on meth cleanup(also a waste, per the post above).
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FollowTheMusic
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Re: Meth Dump Found [Re: rawtoxic]
#6580253 - 02/18/07 12:49 AM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Meth lab cleanup is a real problem. Especially when dumped improperly. Compounds can easily find their way into soil or drinking water. No, you're not gonna die from walking into a meth lab, but if it was your job to clean them up, numerous times a year, you'd damn sure want good safety. Yes, labs can be run cleanly, but you can't know that ahead of time. Yes, the cleanup probably wastes some money, but so does every gov't department in existence.
Sorry, but the stupidity of the WOD doesn't negate the facts. Though I agree, tossing in pot grows was a dirty trick.
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Seuss
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Re: Meth Dump Found [Re: fastfred]
#6580374 - 02/18/07 02:01 AM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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> The WOD has made people think that meth waste is worse than nuclear waste.
To be fair, there is a lot of nuclear waste I would rather work with than meth lab waste. Contrary to your assertation, cleaning up an unknown mess of random chemicals is dangerous. Other than creating the problem in the first place, the WoD has nothing to do with messes.
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ThreePieceSuit
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Re: Meth Dump Found [Re: Seuss]
#6580569 - 02/18/07 05:19 AM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Lord knows it's difficult to get rid of miracle grow and fertilizer.
It's also common to find water at marijuana grow operations. Water can seep down through the ground and into the sewer systems.
OH TEH HORROR
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Ego Death
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>>>tossing in pot grows was a dirty trick
Definately, whats a few stalks and pots gonna do to the environment!??
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2FiNiTe
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Re: Meth Dump Found [Re: rawtoxic]
#6582409 - 02/18/07 05:49 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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I'm with fastfred on this one, that waste money is getting spent in corrupt cops pockets. "Marijuana Grow Cleanups" ? I mean come on, they could have defiantly thought up something better to scam money from the tax payers, like medicare maybe?
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fastfred
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Re: Meth Dump Found [Re: Seuss]
#6584330 - 02/19/07 05:58 AM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
Seuss said:
To be fair, there is a lot of nuclear waste I would rather work with than meth lab waste. Contrary to your assertion, cleaning up an unknown mess of random chemicals is dangerous. Other than creating the problem in the first place, the WoD has nothing to do with messes.
You'd be the last person I'd suspect to have bought into this WOD bullshit.
Cleaning up a meth lab usually shouldn't be much more dangerous than cleaning up an old garage. To anyone cleaning up a meth lab it really shouldn't be an unknown mess of random chemicals. There are only a couple common way of making meth. There's nothing all that hazardous about any of them.
The biggest danger would be a fire. I don't see any reason that firefighters shouldn't be fully adequate to clean up the mess. They have gloves, respiratory protection, and fire safety skills.
And the WOD IS responsible for these messes. If not for the WOD these dumps wouldn't be here. People would be able to easily dispose of these chemicals at their local hazardous waste dropoff sites rather than dumping them into the ground, running them down the drain, or just dumping them in the woods. Instead they have to worry that overzealous police will be taking fingerprints off of their dropoff containers. In fact, I bet a lot of people with legit uses for common solvents end up just dumping them rather than risking looking suspicious.
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dedjam
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Re: Meth Dump Found [Re: fastfred]
#6584423 - 02/19/07 07:02 AM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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They talk about meth lab cleanups all the time on the news. No matter the size of the trailer, it always seems to take hazmat teams ATLEAST 8 hours to clean up a meth lab. Uh, most of the meth trailors they show on the news can be completely cleaned and renovated in 8 hours. Its such BS.
The government pays out too much to the companies for cleanup. At the same time, I think the government knows they are getting raped...but when people hear their tax dollars are being spent on meth cleanup, they get more pissed off...and that fuels the drug war even more. Of course people dont look at it objectively and say "hey, if drugs were legal this shit would be made in real labs and we wouldnt have theses rednecks turning their trailers into a hazmat hayday."
There is always another angle, sadly most people wont find it unless they government tells them too.
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