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veggie

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Man jailed for dodging taxes on grow-op [CAN]
#6455993 - 01/13/07 03:37 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Man jailed for dodging taxes on grow-op January 13, 2007 - ottawasun.com
An Ottawa man who didn't report the income he earned from a marijuana grow operation will serve jail time in lieu of paying a fine to the taxman.
Van Hai Le was yesterday sentenced to six months in jail for not reporting the roughly $200,000 in revenue he made from the grow op.
Le pleaded guilty to one count of income tax evasion on Dec. 11.
After a massive investigation by the RCMP's Combined Forces Special Enforcement Unit, police realized Le was a "major player" in a grow op.
A large drug bust was carried out by the RCMP at addresses across Ottawa in 2004.
When the Canada Revenue Agency checked its records, they realized Le made a significant chunk of money off the grow op, but didn't report it on his 2004 income tax statement.
The revenue agency said Le has agreed to repay all owed taxes, including interest and penalties.
The government can assess a penalty of up to 50% of the tax evaded.
Sam Papadopoulos, spokesman for the Canada Revenue Agency, said even proceeds of crime need to be reported on income tax statements.
The information in a tax return is private and the revenue agency can't disclose it unless a court orders the disclosure, Papadopoulos said.
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Re: Man jailed for dodging taxes on grow-op [CAN] [Re: veggie]
#6456079 - 01/13/07 04:05 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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These laws confuse me, are they a catch-22? I mean, could this guy have paid his taxes from his grow-op and not gotten arrested? Or would he have gotten arrested anyway due to the method of his income?
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Re: Man jailed for dodging taxes on grow-op [CAN] [Re: Gastronomicus]
#6456128 - 01/13/07 04:25 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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well, as far as I understand it, it would be private info until they could tell a judge "Hey, this guy is obviously growing dope, can we see his tax statement plzplzplzpzlplz?" and then the judge would say "sure" and then WHAMMY they'd have even more evidence to bust em
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Re: Man jailed for dodging taxes on grow-op [CAN] [Re: Anarchyz0r]
#6456335 - 01/13/07 05:49 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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I suppose it depends.
Marc Emery declared his income, for instance, and also declared his occupation as a distributor of marijuana seeds. He did so for several years, and was not arrested.
Granted, those are only seeds, and he was in B.C.
I would assume the government would step in if it were actual production.
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Re: Man jailed for dodging taxes on grow-op [CAN] [Re: ThreePieceSuit]
#6456436 - 01/13/07 06:42 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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In the US you would just put it down in the "unreported income" blank. No explanation necessary.
> The government can assess a penalty of up to 50% of the tax evaded.
Canadian laws are nice. In the US you would be doing prison time for "tax evasion".
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Re: Man jailed for dodging taxes on grow-op [CAN] [Re: fastfred]
#6456554 - 01/13/07 07:41 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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My guess is he did this as a "deal". He plead guilty, and notice there isn't mention of any other charge, in fact it says this was the sole charge he plead to. Now, since they know he didn't report the income, they also know he made the money and how he made it, so it's not like they couldn't charge him if they didn't want to. I'm sure you've all seen Law & Order haha. I'd rather have "tax evasion" show up on my record than "drug dealer", sounds like a victory in the long run to me.
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Re: Man jailed for dodging taxes on grow-op [CAN] [Re: jewunit]
#6456620 - 01/13/07 08:16 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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It's not about what you know, it's about what you can prove.
Haven't you seen training day? It looks like all they could prove was that he had unreported income.
> The information in a tax return is private...
Since when is this? Anyone can get your tax returns if they know your name and SS#.
Perhaps they're supposed to have authorization, but all you have to do is fill out this form... ht*tp://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f4506t.pdf
In the US pretty much any government agency is authorized to get your return...
"Routine uses of this information include giving it to the Department of Justice for civil and criminal litigation, and cities, states, and the District of Columbia for use in administering their tax laws. We may also disclose this information to other countries under a tax treaty, to federal and state agencies to enforce federal nontax criminal laws, or to federal law enforcement and intelligence agencies to combat terrorism."
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Re: Man jailed for dodging taxes on grow-op [CAN] [Re: fastfred]
#6457024 - 01/13/07 11:14 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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It looks to me like they could prove what the unreported income was on, since it says it in the article. If they can prove what it was on, then they can also prove he did. And if they can prove he made that much on weed, you can bet your ass he would be in jail for it, unless he cut a deal.
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Re: Man jailed for dodging taxes on grow-op [CAN] [Re: jewunit]
#6457488 - 01/14/07 03:21 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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well how do you get 200,000 and get away clean? laundry it into a bank account that draws interest and gets ridisual income each month off of it??? seriousely how do u get around this here in america?
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Re: Man jailed for dodging taxes on grow-op [CAN] [Re: KangKoopa]
#6457554 - 01/14/07 04:15 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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It's called CASH my man!
If you want to pay 30%+ on it then just claim it as income. Otherwise just keep a nice fat supply of good old american cash on you.
Looks like the limit is $10K, so just keep $9K on you and stash the rest. Of course you'll have to launder at least enough to buy titled items like cars, boats, houses, etc.
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Re: Man jailed for dodging taxes on grow-op [CAN] [Re: fastfred]
#6459208 - 01/14/07 04:03 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Ive recently learned that it's okay to carry insane amounts of cash in NY, because legally you can only buy a car with cash, certified check, or bank check. So if you get pulled over going on your way to buy the whole Mexican supply of weed (more likely Canada in NY I guess) then just tell them you're on your way to buy a car. If everything else is right they have to let you go.
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Re: Man jailed for dodging taxes on grow-op [CAN] [Re: fastfred]
#6459747 - 01/14/07 06:40 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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fastfred said: It's not about what you know, it's about what you can prove.
Haven't you seen training day? It looks like all they could prove was that he had unreported income.
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Although never successfully convicted of racketeering charges, Capone's criminal career ended in 1931 when he was indicted and convicted by the federal government for income tax evasion.
The man who began orgainized crime in america.
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