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 VappinGIBB
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 Help identifying possible...
#8878804 - 09/04/08 07:21 PM (2 months, 27 days ago) |
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These were found in horse manure, and the cap is almost as big as my hand. Pics are fairly clear and can hopefully speak for themselves b/c this is a first time pick, and Im not gonna take them unless Im positive. Thanks for the help guys.http
Edited by VappinGIBB (09/04/08 07:25 PM)
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 Senor_Hongos
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 Re: Help identifying possible... [Re: VappinGIBB]
#8878988 - 09/04/08 07:50 PM (2 months, 27 days ago) |
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I'm not sure where you are but Panaeolus retirugis would be one guess. The wrinkled cap in the fourth picture seems to indicate it. Otherwise I would have said P. antillarum. Neither species is active.
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 Alan Rockefeller
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Re: Help identifying possible... [Re: Senor_Hongos]
#8879010 - 09/04/08 07:53 PM (2 months, 27 days ago) |
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P. retirugis is now synonymous with P. papilionaceus. This is Panaeolus antillarum.
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VappinGIBB
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Wow I have so much to learn. They were found in Georgia. So definetly not what I'd be looking for then???
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: Help identifying possible... [Re: VappinGIBB]
#8879193 - 09/04/08 08:20 PM (2 months, 27 days ago) |
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Definitely not what you are looking for. They are a good indicator species for dung loving Psilocybin mushrooms like cubensis and Copelandia though, at least it means that the area has dung and the rain has been there. Antillarum fruits in more different weather conditions then the psilocybin varieties however.
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Boris
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VappinGIB, those look like Panaeolus antillarum.
  
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panaeolus_antillarum
Non-active, edible, Dunno if they taste good tho lol... Not gunna get you high if there Panaeolus antillarum. By no means am I saying stick it in your mouth... I'm not totally sure, But if I'm correct there is no known Pan species that is poisonous ?
Sever the stem near the cap and wait like 10 minutes, if there is a definite blue/green/teal bruising, they are Panaeolus cyanescens, a highly Psychoactive shroom.
Implee says Panaeolus cyanescens do NOT grow on Horse dung. Many outhers say they do... Dunno, never seen one in the wild.
pan cyan's look like Pan ants but are smaller thinner stems and bruise blue.
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Re: Help identifying possible... [Re: Boris]
#8879554 - 09/04/08 09:31 PM (2 months, 27 days ago) |
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Quote:
By no means am I saying stick it in your mouth...
Its ok, antillarum is edible, you can fry it up if you want.
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Boris
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I just said that as a disclaimer lol... Didn't wanna put my 2cents in, then he dies or something lol...
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Simple minds discuss people; average minds discuss events; great minds discuss ideas.
Q: Why patience a virtue?
A: Patience is a virtue because it makes us better people. The definition of the word is to tolerate delay. This implies self control and forebearance as opposed to wanting what we want when we want it. How many times have we jumped the gun and found out it it would have been better to tolerate delay or had self control? What did we miss out on? Did we hurt someone because of lack of patience? Did our lives just change completely just because we couldn't control ourselves? Patience is not only a virtue but a necessity for a happy exisitience.
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Senor_Hongos
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Quote:
Alan Rockefeller said:
P. retirugis is now synonymous with P. papilionaceus. This is Panaeolus antillarum.
I kinda heard that but I hate trying to spell papilionaceus. Plus I think the name retirgus is more descriptive. That cap looks wrinkled, not like a butterfly. 
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Amanitas kill more people than all other mushrooms put together, so an ID of some to be eaten must be correct. An ID based on a photo on the Internets is not reliable enough to potentially risk your life on. ToxicMan
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Re: Help identifying possible... [Re: Senor_Hongos]
#8882019 - 09/05/08 12:00 PM (2 months, 26 days ago) |
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Most Panaeolus have a wrinkled cap.
I didn't used to be able to spell it so I wrote the wikipedia article on it and have no had any trouble since.
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