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 kezlav
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 ID Request - Queensland, Australia
#8695594 - 07/29/08 12:57 AM (4 months, 2 days ago) |
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First time picking, hope I did this right.
Habitat:
Found in cow dung in Duckadang, Australia (I think its out near the end of the Brisbane River, about 2 hours North-West (I think) from Brisbane. It is winter here, and it was cold there, and it had been raining the past few days.
Gills:
The gills were a browny-gray colour when picked.
Stem:
About a 3-5mm diameter
Cap:
From very small - 10-15mm diameter, to up to 30-40mm, one was a larger, and possibly different kind, was around 50mm diameter
Spore print color:
black
Bruising:
Blue on stem and cap.
Other information:
They smelt just mushroomy to me? They were picked a couple of days previous to taking the photo and were stored in a cardboard box for a couple of days due to no other appropriate storage. The blue bruising seen in the pictures is due to this. Although you can't really see it in these images, the mushrooms, when freshly picked had a brownish tinge in the tip of the cap.
sorry about all the images, i don't know how many you would like.
Thanks.
Peace.
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Re: ID Request - Queensland, Australia [Re: kezlav]
#8695618 - 07/29/08 01:10 AM (4 months, 2 days ago) |
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nice. looks like panaeolus cyanescens to me. almost positive on that.
wait for some more opinions tho to be safe.
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Re: ID Request - Queensland, Australia [Re: notorius gib]
#8695631 - 07/29/08 01:18 AM (4 months, 2 days ago) |
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kezlav
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Re: ID Request - Queensland, Australia [Re: MHbound]
#8695830 - 07/29/08 02:41 AM (4 months, 2 days ago) |
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yeah, me and a mate thought they could have been cyanescens, but someone on this forum said there's like no chance of finding them in queensland, however that could have just been in relation to another ID request at a certain time in the year, i duno.
if they are cyanescens, i'm happy 
can someone give me a definate?
thanks.
peace.
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Re: ID Request - Queensland, Australia [Re: kezlav]
#8695872 - 07/29/08 03:03 AM (4 months, 2 days ago) |
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look like cyans to me too nice find
I don't know a lot about cyans but i thought they were warmer weather mushrooms, but no doubting what you found, good work!
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kezlav
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Re: ID Request - Queensland, Australia [Re: undergrounder]
#8696065 - 07/29/08 05:53 AM (4 months, 2 days ago) |
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so who are the pros here, or am i sweet to trust all of you dudes? is that a definite?
thank you all for your input
peace.
PS. also, what's the best way to dry them? i can't really do anything too drastic in my room, my house mates aren't too open to drying mushrooms in the house...i've got them in between paper towels in my cupboard (as pictured, but with paper towel on top also) any further help would be appreciated. i just can't exactly have a light or heater in my cupboard :P
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Re: ID Request - Queensland, Australia [Re: kezlav]
#8696083 - 07/29/08 06:01 AM (4 months, 2 days ago) |
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The pro's are listed in the rules thread i think, they're the only people you should trust, you can PM one i think if you like to ask them to look at the thread, that'd be a good idea if you're unsure.
Dry them? Do you have any machines in your room that have warm vents on top? Like an old-style computer screen? Stick you rmushrooms on those vents, and just put a book or something to cover them... that'll dry them perfectly.
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Re: ID Request - Queensland, Australia [Re: kezlav]
#8697021 - 07/29/08 11:38 AM (4 months, 2 days ago) |
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Yea must be Panaeolus cyanescens
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There is your pro, and if you don't believe him...Then I suggest going to buy a book, and ID it yourself.
Its clearly Pan Cyan. if you check the ID. Print them and eat em.
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Re: ID Request - Queensland, Australia [Re: MHbound]
#8697219 - 07/29/08 12:19 PM (4 months, 2 days ago) |
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Quote:
MHbound said:
There is your pro, and if you don't believe him...Then I suggest going to buy a book, and ID it yourself.
Its clearly Pan Cyan. if you check the ID. Print them and eat em.
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kezlav
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Re: ID Request - Queensland, Australia [Re: MHbound]
#8700375 - 07/30/08 12:32 AM (4 months, 1 day ago) |
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hey,
thanks for you id confirmation.
also, what's the best way for me to be drying them out, it's a week since i picked them and they aren't dry, i can't do anything erratic because my housemates wouldn't approve. i've got some between paper towels, and some in a small masonary jar with paper towel top and bottom with a tea bag of desiccant on top. i would love to air dry them, but someone will notice a fan on a bunch of mushrooms going in my room. i also don't have a dehydrator, i'm really desperate for a better way. will it majorly effect the potency because i'm taking this long to dry them?
Thank you.
Peace.
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kezlav
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Re: ID Request - Queensland, Australia [Re: MHbound]
#8700384 - 07/30/08 12:34 AM (4 months, 1 day ago) |
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Quote:
MHbound said:
There is your pro, and if you don't believe him...Then I suggest going to buy a book, and ID it yourself.
Its clearly Pan Cyan. if you check the ID. Print them and eat em.
What do you mean print them? Spore print I'm guessing, if so, is that to re-grow on more dung?
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Re: ID Request - Queensland, Australia [Re: kezlav]
#8700448 - 07/30/08 12:55 AM (4 months, 1 day ago) |
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Buy a desiccant. Put the desiccant in a bowl, put a piece of chicken wire or a grill screen over the bowl, and put your mushrooms on it. The desiccant draws the water out of them, and they'll be dry in no time. The paper towels will retain moisture, and the mushrooms can grow mold due to it. Not such a good idea.
Yes spore print them. You could use them to grow them indoors down the road if you choose to start indoor cultivation.
Two commonly used dessicants are calcium hydroxide and silica gel. You can buy them in bulk from several different places, but I'm not familiar with Australia so I don't know where to tell you to go.
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Re: ID Request - Queensland, Australia [Re: MHbound]
#8700512 - 07/30/08 01:08 AM (4 months, 1 day ago) |
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Hey, very nice find. Pan cyans definitely grow in QLD, although it seems unusual that they would be fruiting in cold weather.
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kezlav
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Re: ID Request - Queensland, Australia [Re: MHbound]
#8700680 - 07/30/08 01:54 AM (4 months, 1 day ago) |
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Quote:
MHbound said:
Yes spore print them. You could use them to grow them indoors down the road if you choose to start indoor cultivation.
I've just set them up inside my cupboard under a fan, hopefully no one opens my cupboard :P smells like shit, sounds like a fan is going inside.
i can only spore print them fresh right, so i should do that before they dry? how many should i spore print?
also, how do i preserve the spore prints for future use? how long will they keep? sorry, i'm new to this
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Re: ID Request - Queensland, Australia [Re: kezlav]
#8701017 - 07/30/08 05:58 AM (4 months, 1 day ago) |
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They may have been out too long, and may not be able to be printed. Here is a link for printing.
http://www.shroomery.org/9146/How-do-I-make-a-sporeprint
Prints will stay good for years if stored in a cool/dark place. 1 prints can easily make 10 syringes, and 1 syringe can easily inoculate 10-12 jars. So, once you start growing you just print the new ones, and the cycle never ends.
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Re: ID Request - Queensland, Australia [Re: kezlav]
#8701177 - 07/30/08 08:05 AM (4 months, 1 day ago) |
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You will make a lot more friends here if you learn how to use the search function effectively pal.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/search.php
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kezlav
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Re: ID Request - Queensland, Australia [Re: lukey2411]
#8715248 - 08/02/08 07:53 AM (3 months, 29 days ago) |
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thanks again for your replies guys. they were fan dried and are now in a masonry jar with desiccant in my cupboard waiting for a friend and i to get together and do them sometime in the near future for what will be our first mushroom trip
peace.
any special words/advice/things we should do/have?
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