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adam
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 panaeolopsis
#8579495 - 06/30/08 01:35 AM (5 months, 20 hours ago) |
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so i found a giant ass patch of subbs today
and i think i found a panaeolopsis or two that was kinda mixed in
it almost seemed like some of the subs were kinda folding in at the bottom like the panaeolopsis. but uh.. ya
i dono, maybe im just not used to what the panaeolopsis is supposed to look like..
the third one from the right i think is definately a panaeolopsis but the other ones look kinda just like folded up subs..
tell me what you think!
and a picture of the rest of the subs i picked.. minus the ones i already ate..
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El Zorro
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Adam, are you picking in my patch?
Actually I found a huge patch Saturday that had several panaeolopsis looking specimens as well. Not quite closed at the bottom but very balloonish.
Made me wonder if some of what I though were Panaeolopsis are actually just part of the morphology of the Pan Subbs.
I was pleasantly surprised by the explosion of subbs I found Sat. It has been so hot here in the valley. But this last week with all the smokey haze and humidity must have turned them on because I picked over a pound in under an hour at a school yard.
Nice finds.
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 Alan Rockefeller
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it almost seemed like some of the subs were kinda folding in at the bottom like the panaeolopsis. but uh.. ya
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Made me wonder if some of what I though were Panaeolopsis are actually just part of the morphology of the Pan Subbs.
I found a patch of Pan foes yesterday, and 95% of them were folded in at the bottom like Panaeolopsis.
I ate 30 fresh specimens in the name of science and had no effects. I checked under the scope and the spores were roughened like foes. Didn't see any bluing at the stem bases.
Maybe there really is Panaeolopsis, but it also seems like something that subbs and foes do pretty often.
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xmush
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I like this theory Alan, because it seems that Panaeolopsis doesn't really drop spores, which would make you wonder how they get around. Would make sense that they are just some mutant of foens and subbs, especially as they're nearly always found alongside them
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LagunaMuckHunta
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 Re: panaeolopsis [Re: xmush]
#8606873 - 07/08/08 02:09 AM (4 months, 23 days ago) |
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im pretty sure i have about 30 of them right now. Im new to hunting and i didnt know if the ones that were more ball shaped where the cap almost enclosed the stem all the way and has a little more wrinkly skin becoming more golden as they dry were the subbs or not. i also failed to get a decent spore print from any of them and a jet black from the other which indicated to me that the others were subbs. I will have a cam tommorow so ill show you guys what i got
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CureCat
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Those are not Panaeolopsis.
A good way to determine whether you have a secotioid mushroom is to attempt a spore print. I used to "butterfly" the caps of Panaeolopsis in attempt to render a spore print, but no go. If you do the same with these curled Panaeolus and Panaeolina you will get a spore print.
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LagunaMuckHunta
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Re: panaeolopsis [Re: CureCat]
#8619413 - 07/10/08 09:09 PM (4 months, 21 days ago) |
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so are these balloon like ones active at all?
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 weiliiiiiii
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Alan, Workman has said that panaeolopsis are its own species based upon microscopy.
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