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My trichos
    #8244915 - 04/05/08 11:27 PM (7 months, 23 days ago)

all were planted 3 weeks ago. Germ rate is around 50%, with the werdermanius close to 100%, and the pocos the lowest, with only 3 out of about 25 popping.

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Re: My trichos [Re: mofo]
    #8245045 - 04/05/08 11:55 PM (7 months, 23 days ago)

there, got the pics up, sorry about that (hey, I'm a noob, I admit it) also, sorry for my shitty camera/lack of photography skill


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Re: My trichos [Re: mofo]
    #8245139 - 04/06/08 12:32 AM (7 months, 23 days ago)

beautiful, are you going to graft any?

What are you're plans for them?


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Re: My trichos [Re: JonnyDeformed]
    #8245212 - 04/06/08 01:11 AM (7 months, 22 days ago)

I dunno what the hell I'm gonna do with all of them. The last time I sprouted pachanoi seeds was ten years ago (actually, looking back now, I'm sure it was actually torch or hybrid) and I only had one make it because I didn't know what I was doing.

Now I'm facing the reality that I may have 50+ cacti in my home. I already know I'm giving some away since ppl I've told about them have already voiced an interest in them.

Heck, maybe someday I'll sell cuts on ebay.

No, I don't think I'll be doing any grafting. The thought of acquiring some lopho seeds to sprout and graft did cross my mind, but I don't think its worth the added legal risk considering san pedro is legal and has a similar psychotropic capacity.


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Re: My trichos [Re: mofo]
    #8247033 - 04/06/08 03:18 PM (7 months, 22 days ago)

could you tell a little about the werdermanius and poco? I am not familiar with them.


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Re: My trichos [Re: Delta9Hippie]
    #8247119 - 04/06/08 03:43 PM (7 months, 22 days ago)

Well, if one were looking for a cactus to trip off, you wouldn't choose the werdermanius or the poco. Supposedly, the werdermanius does have some minute alkaloid content, but one would probably have to do an extraction to achieve any effects.

Both are used as ornamental cacti which is my purpose in growing them. From what I understand, the werdermanius is sold in the southwest as "cordon grande" and marketed as a faster growing alternative to the saguaro. I don't know much about the poco other than in the pictures I've seen on the vendors webpage, it is smaller with a dense array of whispy spines.

Keep in mind I'm far from an expert on trichocereus cacti, and if anyone else has anything to add, feel free.

Correction: I just looked it up, and its actually spelled werdermannianus. My bad.


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Re: My trichos [Re: mofo]
    #8247884 - 04/06/08 07:17 PM (7 months, 22 days ago)

cardon grande= pachycereus pringlei, i haven't heard of people refering to wedermannianus as cardon grande.


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Re: My trichos [Re: durban_poison]
    #8248086 - 04/06/08 08:05 PM (7 months, 22 days ago)

why not try your hand at grafting some of those seedlings to pereskiopsis, speed things up some...


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Re: My trichos [Re: JonnyDeformed]
    #8248510 - 04/06/08 09:34 PM (7 months, 22 days ago)

I guess I might as well try that, come to think of it. I have enough to spare a few if I botch it. I'll have to read up on grafting since I've never tried it. From what I understand, it isn't too hard tho. Where do you get those pereskiopsis? Home Depot, or do I have to go to a specialty nursery?


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Re: My trichos [Re: mofo]
    #8368247 - 05/06/08 09:57 AM (6 months, 23 days ago)

Home depot sometimes has them,but not often enough IMHO,im getting 7 feet soon that i need for my own grafting stock im planting some of them to grow out so ill always have grafting stock,shoot me a pm and i could send you some in a few months if your down for a trade.


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Re: My trichos [Re: mofo]
    #8369191 - 05/06/08 02:52 PM (6 months, 23 days ago)

actually T. werdermannianus does have a favorable profile. yes each one will be different. you may find a winner in those though.


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Re: My trichos [Re: durban_poison]
    #8369897 - 05/06/08 05:50 PM (6 months, 23 days ago)

what is your setup and your method?


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Re: My trichos [Re: danlennon3]
    #8370473 - 05/06/08 07:47 PM (6 months, 23 days ago)

I've been looking into pereskiopsis, and I think actually the most economical route to get a whole bunch would be the same as for most other plants; grow it from seed. I've found one or two vendors who sell seed, so I'll be ordering up shortly (its cheap too!). Do you guys think it can catch up with the trichos fast enough to graft? If not, I did save some Icaros seeds, so I could sprout and graft those. I'm in no rush really tho.

Durban poison, I heard that about werdermannianus, so we'll see. I like to keep my expectations low tho, so maybe I can be pleasantly surprised.

Danlennon3, I forget where I read the tek, but I used those disposable glad food storage containers you can get in the supermarket to sprout them in, using cactus potting soil right out of the bag. I basically just hydrated the soil until it was fairly damp but not sopping wet, and packed it down in the containers.

The Icaros seeds were simply sprinkled on top of the compacted soil, the rest I scratched the very top (1/8th inch+/-) of the soil before sprinkling the seeds, then pressed it down again. There wasn't any difference in the germ rate of the Icaros compared to the others, although they did seem to take a little longer to germinate.

After sowing the seeds, I simply put the covers on, placed them under a CFL and aired them out for a few minutes each day. Since they're enclosed in containers, misting or additional watering shouldn't be necessary, but its crucial that the soil isn't too wet or the seeds will either rot or the sprouts will dampen off.


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Re: My trichos [Re: mofo]
    #8370805 - 05/06/08 08:55 PM (6 months, 23 days ago)

I've never seen pereskiopsis seeds. Most people just buy cuttings. They are extremely easy to root and they grow like weeds. They usually only go for about 1.50 per cutting. It would be allot easier to get cuttings than start from seed.


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Re: My trichos [Re: sturmer88]
    #8568396 - 06/26/08 07:32 PM (5 months, 3 days ago)

UPDATE


brigesii


icaros


pachanoi


poco


werdermanianus


Sorry again for the poor quality, my cam wasn't made for close-ups.  As you can see, they're doing relatively well.  I've had the lids off for a couple weeks now.  Its probably still a little dry for them, but they seem to be adjusting.  I lost several bridgesii when I accidentally dropped an object in the pot.  They broke off from the roots.  I tried to replant them, but only one took.


And yes, I found one vendor selling pereskiopsis seeds, 100 for about $18.  I'll be getting those soon along with a few cuttings.  Once I identify the superior specimens, I'll be cloning them by the boatload.


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Re: My trichos [Re: mofo]
    #8568723 - 06/26/08 08:46 PM (5 months, 3 days ago)

just get cuttings of Pereskiopsis.
  I started with one cutting 3 years ago and it has multiplied thousandfold.
  if ya get some and try out some grafting I would recommend the thread "Ookla's ghetto grafting guide"
  its a great method and you dont need a humidity tent.
  also I should update the thread because there were some new grafts I did that have taken and are now growing fast.
  the pin method works


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Re: My trichos [Re: mofo]
    #8573485 - 06/28/08 05:19 AM (5 months, 1 day ago)

What soil mix are you using?


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Re: My trichos [Re: JonnyDeformed]
    #8600880 - 07/06/08 01:54 PM (4 months, 24 days ago)

I'm just using Miracle Grow Cactus, Palm and Citrus mix straight out of the bag.  It seems fine, but I would like to try mixing my own for repotting, if only to save money.


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