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 Grow box questions... Please help out a fellow shroomer
#8596431 - 07/05/08 01:04 AM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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Im buying a mycobag very soon and I need to ask some questions because I am extremely nervous. I apologize for all the questions. Some are probably very stupid. I am completely, completely, COMPLETELY new to this. Here they are:
1. I dont live alone so the the lowest I could set the air conditioner is about 78F and the highest at 81F, is that good?
2. I was thinking about storing it in my attic or my closet or under my bed. Out of the 3, I think the attic gets the warmest. Which would be the best?
3. If getting a 4lb bag how many times should I inject it and how much should I inject each time? what about a 3lb? What about a 6lb bag?
4. If I dont immediately use the syringe should it be kept in a refrigerator? How long until it goes bad? Will the stuff in the grow bag go bad?
5. After inoculating the bag, I was thinking about putting it back in the box that it came shipped in and taping it closed and puttin it in one of the places mentioned before for about a week. Is that good? Should I poke a couple small holes in the box?
6. Could I put the bag in a shady spot outside?
7. If I wanted to check the bag to see how far its come and turned on the light to see it, would that ruin it?
8. After all the white stuff takes it completely over, could I just sit the bag out in the middle of my room with the light on for 12 hours or so to make it fruit?
9. I see peoples on here whos shrooms are growing out the bag, do the shrooms grow to the point where they bust the bag open themselves or do you have to put holes in the bag?
10. After the mycelium takes over, do I have open the bag to begin fruiting or just leave it closed? Should fruiting temps be at a cooler or warmer temperature? How much cooler or warmer?
11. Is this basically it: Get the bag, inject it, put it in a dark spot at the right temperature, wait till it turns completely white, leave it in my room with the lights on for 12 hours every day, and wait to pick them?
12. Is a little light every now and then good at the beginning or no light at all whatsoever if possible?
13. What does it mean to inject between the bag and the substrate?
14. After I pick the mushrooms that grow, can tape the bag back closed? I read that you have to spray a lil water and fold it back closed, does that mean fold it all the way around the bag itsels so its tight or just fold it to where the top tip of the bag touches the bottom of it?
13 Also, after I spray a little water on it and close it, do I repeat the whole process of putting it back in the dark or just repeat the fruiting process to get more flushes? Should I shake the bag after picking them?
15. I was thinkin about getting the mycobag from Sporeworks.com. Is that good? which substrate is the best? I was thinking about getting the, "Three Pound Organic Rye Berry Spawn Starter Kits by Everything Mushrooms" Is that right? They call them spawn bags though, is that the same thing?
Thats about all the questions I have about grow bags. If anybody could answer some or all, I would deeply appreciate it and I would be on my way.This would be my first time doing shrooms and my first time growing them. I once again would like to apoligize for all the questions but I am short on money and I really dont want to mess this up. Please help me out if you can. Be safe. Peace and Love.
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 Re: Grow box questions... Please help out a fellow shroomer [Re: lordmoon2212]
#8596527 - 07/05/08 02:30 AM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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1. yes
2. closet or bed(preferably closet so its off the ground)
3. once. amount is up to you. no less than 4cc no more than 150  says p. menace
4. yes a long time and yes
5. hanging the bag works well as it allows it to breath a little. the co2 buildup in the bag will make it expand, so taping it back up isnt beneficial
6. u could but why
7. no
8. yeah it will fruit, but not as good as if you spawned it to a bulk substrate. an easy one would be coco coir
9. they dont bust the bags open, you have to cut the bag open to harvest, but you can let them fruit w/out opening the bag. some ppl make slits in the bag once its fully colonized to allow for fae(fresh air exchange)
10. theres not a huge difference in col. and fruiting temps. a matter of degrees, but they fruit best in the mid 70's and colonize best in low 80's
11. simple as that
12. light is a pinning inducer. a little light wont hurt, but its best to just put it somewhere and forget about it for a little. i know you wont do this and youll check it every 14 minutes tho 
13. like dont jam your needle all the way into it. squirt so it kinda runs between the bag and grains
14. yes. just tape the top flap back over. obviously it needs room for the next flush which will be imediately after the first.
13also. continue fruiting
15. sporeworks =  im not entirely sure if you can fruit directly from just rye(or any grain) theyre spawn bags bcuz ppl use that colonized grain to spawn to bulk. they make mycobags that are 100% in the bag fruiting, they have a grain patch, and then the grain colonizes and you mix it into the other substrate thats in the bag and then simply let fruit...
NOW, with all this being said, im going to yell at you for not searching first. you couldve looked up mycobag and found someones post that used them and gotten probably all your answers.
use this search engine and welcome to the Shroomery
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Re: Grow box questions... Please help out a fellow shroomer [Re: just me]
#8596542 - 07/05/08 02:47 AM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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Damn dude that is a butt load of questions that can easily be answered with the search function... Don't mean to crap in your ovaltine or anything but shit!! If you search for it and still feel reluctant... fuck your reluctance.. Do what it says and Good Luck!!
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Re: Grow box questions... Please help out a fellow shroomer [Re: wasting_space]
#8596718 - 07/05/08 08:09 AM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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Man I love this website. Thanks guys so much. I looked around for 2 hours reading peoples questions and answeres. I just need to ask my exact questions so I had no reason for doubt whatsoever. I just need to clarify a couple of your answers
1. If put in the closet, does the bag still have to stand straight up or can it be bent to fit into a container? If i put it in a container in my closet and cover it with a blanket, would that be good or would it need to breath? I have a tupperware container and a mini cooler, both seem good but the bag would have to be bent and when closed, no fresh are would be getting to it, so what should I do?
2. I was thinking about getting this bag from sporeworks.com: http://sporeworks.com/store/product.php?productid=16357&cat=255&page=1
Is that a good bag?
3. Ive looked around online for coco coir but I find a place that sells it. Do they sell it at like home depot or something? You guys know a website?
4. I was was to buy a spawn bag, how do I spawn into bulk substrate? Do I just open the spawn bag when colonization is complete and pour the contents into the pot of coco coir? Should I shake the pot around with the mycelium and coco coir to mix it together? Do I pour mycelium filled substrate in first and pour the coco coir in 2nd on top of the mycelium substrate?
5. When bulk growing, is the fruiting process still the same?
6. Is there anything besides coco coir that can be used as bulk substrate? can coco coir or another type of bulk substrate be bought from like Home depot?
7. How much Coco coir or other, should be used in the fruiting process?
Thanks Gentleman
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Re: Grow box questions... Please help out a fellow shroomer [Re: lordmoon2212]
#8597258 - 07/05/08 12:21 PM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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1. as i said the best thing to do is hang it. let it expand as its going to. folding it all back up and tucking it away might only slow things down. but ultimately its youre decision, if youre hellbent on putting it in somethin then do so.
2. what kind of mushies are you growing? i dont know how well cubes do on sawdust. everything from sporeworks is a good product. but not everything is for the same things...
3. bro go to any hydroponics store. online or on the street. get fiber and not chunk. i think some of our shroomery vendors might sell it.
4. a spawn bag(just grain) would be your best bet, and spawn this directly to a bulk substrate (like coir) and you can mix a number of ways once your grain is fully colonized. you can mix, you can layer, etc. heres a great read http://www.shroomery.org/forums/favlinker.php?Cat=&Entry=85171&F_Board=64&Thread=6004845&partnumber=&postmarker= i STRONGLY SUGGEST YOU READ IT
5. yes. if by this you mean are you still providing ample moisture and humidity and fae and light...
6. yes. yes. you can use a number of things. horse poop, cow poop, straw, a mix of these, a mix of one with the other etc. and many other things. you can buy popcorn or cracked corn or numerous grains and pressure cook them to make your own jars or bags as well
like so:
http://www.shroomery.org/9035/Popcorn-Tek-w-pics
7. its good to use a ratio of about 3:1 or 4:1 with bulk.
so imagine you use a full brick of coir, id say the general consensus would be to use about 6 quarts of spawn to this. im not entirely sure as ive never used a full brick. a half brick with 3 quarts of spawn works well.
and again bro, most of these answers couldve been searched.
look things up, read and study. trust me, the knowledge youll gain on this hobby by doing your own studying will far surpass the answers im giving you here today.
gl
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Re: Grow box questions... Please help out a fellow shroomer [Re: just me]
#8598404 - 07/05/08 07:36 PM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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Thanks brothas
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Re: Grow box questions... Please help out a fellow shroomer [Re: lordmoon2212]
#8599361 - 07/06/08 12:47 AM (4 months, 24 days ago) |
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im only one guy....
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Re: Grow box questions... Please help out a fellow shroomer [Re: just me]
#8599489 - 07/06/08 01:29 AM (4 months, 24 days ago) |
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