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 paulallen
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 Mushroom drying experiment
#8367303 - 05/05/08 11:51 PM (3 months, 23 days ago) |
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abstract: The drying temp difference from the 150 degrees Wal-Mart nesco and the temp controlled nesco set at 95 degrees are HUGE which really sucks because now these 2 dehydrators are useless to him but the truth is the truth.
Personal note: Around here a lot of people talk about how they take 1 or 2 eights of shrooms and they had a lot of fun whatever. I think a lot of these people who think drying them in these dehydrators at this temp are spreading around weaker shrooms and just don’t know any better and its sad they are losing out on the true power of this magical substance. I never realized until now this might be what’s going on.
Experiment:
Equipment
2 Wal-Mart nesco dehydrator one temp setting ( about 150 – 160)
2 dehydrator Nesco bought online that has a temperature control
1 very high priced thermometer to make sure the temps that are recorded are correct
40 oz of wet mushrooms Amazonian strain
(The bias of this experiment is STRONGLY in favor of being able to use a higher temp to dry shrooms)
Reason for experiment:
First off my friends has grown tons of shrooms and is pretty good at it but that is irrelevant to this experiment. We read on many threads that you could dry them in a nesco dehydrator bought at walmart that levels off at about 150 – 160 degrees with no temp control. He thought that this would be great because then he could take up the temp of his temp controlled nescos and dry them faster.
Drying one: was in the walmart nescos with no temp control and about 20 oz of shrooms where dryed BTW they where not overdried if anything they where underdryed. But either way they where dryed to the same level as the ones in the other nesco
Drying 2 was in the nescos with temp control at about 95 degrees same amount dryed to the same level of dryness
Results:
The first batch was taken to a friends house everyone ate about 1/8 an oz of shrooms everyone tripped and had fun but when I eat that much I should be out of my mind tripping I was at about an ok level 3 trip.
The lower temp batch. Well me and my friends dosed at about 2.2 grams so no where near the dose and got to a good level 3 almost 4 trip.
The lower temperature batch was much much better which sucks a lot but what ever
Edited by paulallen (05/06/08 12:02 AM)
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Re: Mushroom drying experiment [Re: paulallen]
#8367335 - 05/06/08 12:01 AM (3 months, 23 days ago) |
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Since it's not an isolate it's not a test. Mushroom potency will differ from flush to flus, mushroom to mushroom on isolate.
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paulallen
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All mushrooms where taken from the same batch they where mixed together
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Re: Mushroom drying experiment [Re: paulallen]
#8367354 - 05/06/08 12:05 AM (3 months, 23 days ago) |
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It's multi spore so it's not a test.
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Re: Mushroom drying experiment [Re: paulallen]
#8367382 - 05/06/08 12:12 AM (3 months, 23 days ago) |
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Quote:
paulallen said:
All mushrooms where taken from the same batch they where mixed together
That throws, the test out the window..
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Re: Mushroom drying experiment [Re: Brainiac]
#8367605 - 05/06/08 01:25 AM (3 months, 23 days ago) |
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Ok buddy so now there are 2 jars from the same batch jar 1 rocks jar 2 blows. So what ever you say. Peace out I am done
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Re: Mushroom drying experiment [Re: paulallen]
#8367638 - 05/06/08 01:41 AM (3 months, 23 days ago) |
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I actually dry my mushrooms outside in about 96 degree head with 3% humidity. Of course i do this in a secluded area not visible ot other people and in the shade with a paper towel over it, but they are very potent.
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paulallen
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Quote:
dumbfounded1600 said:
Since it's not an isolate it's not a test. Mushroom potency will differ from flush to flus, mushroom to mushroom on isolate.
I had to add one more thing. The YEILD can be vastly different flush to flush but the potency was not. All 40oz grams where taken from the same bin and the same flush so shut your mouth
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Re: Mushroom drying experiment [Re: paulallen]
#8367942 - 05/06/08 06:24 AM (3 months, 23 days ago) |
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Potency should be fairly consistent within the same flush grown on the same substrate (ie. same tub), despite what people will tell you. And whats most interesting is that it is the exact same reason that they like to give: genetics. The genes expressed by the mushrooms are relatively highly conserved and resist drift. There is scientific data to back this statement - I encourage people to google "psilocybin content" and have a look for yourself. I will freely admit that subspecies (ie. strain) will differ in their average psilocybin content (conserved genetics again) though within a subspecies the content will remain normative.
If you want to really appease people around here, you will have to play your experiments down to their thinking. And before anyone takes offense to that statement, none was intended. In "good" science, clones would be used anyways - which is what people are demanding of you (in previous posts). This is however a highly subjective experiment (ie. you have no "true" way of actually measuring content, you are going on your gut feel (pun intended)).
It is an extremely well known (in literature) that trypatamines (slightly less generally indoles) are fairly heat sensitive and extremely oxidation sensitive (due to electron density). Those without a background in organic chemistry will be lost as to why - and often disbelieve this fact due to inexperience/incomplete education on the subject.
So what to do?
I would remove the heating element of the dehydrators and use them as a pre-drying stage of a more thermal-conscious drying process. Once the mushrooms are sufficiently air-dried, put them in a desiccator to thoroughly dry them out.
If you are really pressed for time, then by all means, use low heat in the dehydrators to greatly reduce the drying time. Just be aware that some potency loss will occur. The real question is: will you notice it? The answer depends on too many variables, so I would tend to say "no" but your mileage may vary.
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you sir, just earned  x5 
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