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 HagbardCeline
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 Like downloading content illegally? Stay away from France then....
#8540920 - 06/19/08 01:57 PM (5 months, 9 days ago) |
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While my opinion on this subject is a matter of record and is at odds with most on this board, I definitely agree that enforcement tactics are too heavy handed. But this is another level entirely.
http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/article4165519.ece
From The Times
June 19, 2008
France to ban illegal downloaders from using the internet under three-strikes rule
Teenager using an iPod
Critics of the law said families could lose their internet services if a neighbour’s teenager used their wireless router to load an iPod
Charles Bremner in Paris
Anyone who persists in illicit downloading of music or films will be barred from broadband access under a controversial new law that makes France a pioneer in combating internet piracy.
“There is no reason that the internet should be a lawless zone,” President Sarkozy told his Cabinet yesterday as it endorsed the “three-strikes-and-you’re-out” scheme that from next January will hit illegal downloaders where it hurts.
Under a cross-industry agreement, internet service providers (ISPs) must cut off access for up to a year for third-time offenders.
France's anti-piracy law is unworkable
Using heavy-handed tactics with ISPs is only latest in a line of tactics to defeat online piracy - and it won't work
In a classical French approach the scheme will be enforced by a new £15 million a year state agency, to be called Hadopi (high authority for copyright protection and dissemination of works on the internet).
The law has strong backing from Mr Sarkozy, who has taken a close interest in artists’ rights since marrying Carla Bruni, a model and folk singer. However, it has run into opposition from a range of bodies including the state data protection agency, consumer and civil liberties groups and the European Parliament. Big web companies, including Google, and Dailymotion, the video-sharing firm, refused to sign up to the 40-member industry accord last November.
Mocking the scheme yesterday Libération newspaper gave warning that families could be stripped of their internet and broadband telephone and television if a neighbour’s teenager uses their wireless router to load his iPod.
Christine Albanel, the Culture Minister, who is responsible for the creation- and-internet law, said that it will replace criminal action with dissuasion. “It takes a preventive and educational approach,” she said. Over the past two years French courts have convicted 300 people for piracy, most of them professionals and none of them minors. The prosecutions have had little impact on the sales of a recording industry in steep decline.
Under the accord, the entertainment industry will also drop existing copyright protection on French material so that music or videos bought legally online can be played on any sort of device. The industry has hailed the French scheme as a model for the EU, which is losing hundreds of millions of pounds a year to illicit sharing of films and music. “This is the most important initiative to help win the war on online piracy that we have seen,” John Kennedy, head of the IFPI, the worldwide recording industry body, said.
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 Re: Like downloading content illegally? Stay away from France then.... [Re: HagbardCeline]
#8540930 - 06/19/08 02:01 PM (5 months, 9 days ago) |
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Like downloading content illegally? Stay away from France then....
As if I needed more reason!
Thx though. Possibly a breaking point will come some day where they will clamp down like never before, or let go completely.
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HagbardCeline
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Re: Like downloading content illegally? Stay away from France then.... [Re: DieCommie]
#8541069 - 06/19/08 03:00 PM (5 months, 9 days ago) |
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As if I needed more reason!
Too true. The absurdity of this piece must have temporarily prevented me from remembering all of the other more compelling reasons not to go.
Though I will say that until this (at least as far as I remember right now) I was beginning to like ol' Sarkozy. Perhaps this is simply a case of him trying to remain in the good graces of his wife. If the loss of her favor (read favors  ) were in jeopardy, I could probably justify some pretty crazy shit to myself.
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Re: Like downloading content illegally? Stay away from France then.... [Re: HagbardCeline]
#8541936 - 06/19/08 07:14 PM (5 months, 9 days ago) |
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The French like baseball?
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Re: Like downloading content illegally? Stay away from France then.... [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
#8543256 - 06/20/08 01:56 AM (5 months, 9 days ago) |
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This is crap.
Copyright infringment should usually be handled exactly like it has been, private enforcement.
The public should not protect the IP industry with a state agency and other things, let them do it.
For "for profit" or large scale infringment let the police handle it if they want to, but they shouldn't have the authority to shut off your internet. That is between you and the ISP, not the government.
We must reject the government's intrusion into private contracts.
IF the IP holder gets an injunction or something fine, but the government shouldn't prosecute these types of actions.
And I agree with the OP, I see nothing wrong with the MPAA or whomever's tactics of lawsuits. It's their right to sue, and your right to defend yourself. The only issue I see is the magnitude of statutory damages, but that's a sepperate issue (due process).
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Re: Like downloading content illegally? Stay away from France then.... [Re: johnm214]
#8543367 - 06/20/08 04:04 AM (5 months, 9 days ago) |
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> The public should not protect the IP industry with a state agency and other things, let them do it.
I think we should just all pay the recording industry an "existence tax" just in case we accidentally hear or see something that has been recorded that we are not licensed to hear or see.
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