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 HagbardCeline
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 The newest free energy nut
#8367996 - 05/06/08 07:05 AM (6 months, 15 days ago) |
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Engadget has ran a few spots about this guy recently who claims he's going to unveil his free energy device on the 20th of June.
Here is their latest entry on him.
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Archer Quinn promised the world a working demonstration of his homemade free energy device called the "Sword of God" by June 20th, but it looks like we're getting a sneak peek a little early: Quinn's detailing the build on his blog, and it's just about as pigs-in-trousers insane as you'd expect. It's hard to even pick one quote as an example here -- Quinn rails on about how he destroyed his first machine because he didn't want Arab nations to starve without oil money but then a picture of Dubai's opulence changed his mind, how "gravity wheels" are perpetual motion machines, how Nikola Tesla presented BS theories, how Australian Nazis are reading his email, and on and on. Most importantly, however, he continues to update on how his project is going. We're not sure if he's done yet or what (it's not exactly easy to follow) but it looks like something's ready -- anyone want to bet if it works? We also have a very nice bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.
If you have a few minutes to waste, you'll surely get a laugh from this joke of a guy.
http://www.surphzup.com/gpage3.html
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 johnm214
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Damn that page is long, I will not read that.
Here's the first part though:
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In this case the primary input source is gravity, so there is no created energy at all, simply the manipulation of the most constant and powerful force on the planet, albeit that according to history, all gravity wheels were considered as perpetual motion machines, whilst all the idiots still cry out, you can't get energy from nothing, gravity is not nothing.
Seuss said something about unbalanced wheels in the magnet energy thread, guess he was right.
I really wish these folks, as well as the ET crowd, could condense their prose/videos into short factual descriptions. Its impossible to figure out what this guys talking about w/out reading way more than I care too. It is kinda fun though, makes you feel smart without even doing anything 
Anyways, since he's using gravity, I suspect the prototype willl turn out like this:
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Seuss
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What a bunch of nonsense. I don't have time to dive into it now, but it appears that he is does not understand the difference (or relation) between potential and kinetic energy.
Also, somebody needs to teach the guy how to weld. I can do a better job than that, and I suck at welding.
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HagbardCeline
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 Re: The newest free energy nut [Re: Seuss]
#8368144 - 05/06/08 09:02 AM (6 months, 14 days ago) |
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HAHA, I hadn't even noticed the welding when I looked at it first. I was too astounded with the insane ramblings and overall shoddy nature of the devices construction to notice those details.
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I'm always encouraged when "free energy" advocates who cannot spell or punctuate in any kind of logical manner manage to discover unlimited energy sources. It makes me think I'm concentrating on the wrong types of things.
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Seuss
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The premise of the wheel is simple in the object, and that is to get the wheel to turn itself. For those who wish to understand the basic principle of a gravity wheel; take the cage cover off your pedestal fan (or any vertical fan) and place/tape a coin of any size to the outside edge of one of the blades, holding it just past the top at the 0ne o’clock position, let it go. the fan will turn simply because there is more weight on one side than the other. What is notable and also important is momentum. the blade with the coin will always travel well past the centre base of the fan, before rolling back. So we have gravity that makes the turn possible with (sic) [Seuss: should be 'without' - as stated, the author is correct, but is not describing his system which happens to be incorrect] any other energy, and we have momentum created due to the loss of impact normally given to a falling object.
The bold section is incorrect. As I said, the guy has a lack of understanding with respect to kinetic and potential energy. Potential energy is added to the system when you lift the penny and attach it to the fan blade. Potential energy is converted into kinetic energy as the force of gravity acts upon the penny, pulling it towards the earth. When the penny reaches the lowest point, all of the potential energy has been converted into kinetic energy. As the penny continues past the lowest point, and starts to climb, kinetic energy once again turns into potential energy. However, due to friction in the system, some energy is lost (as heat, etc), thus the penny never rises as far as it did. Eventually all of the kinetic energy becomes potential energy and the process repeats. Each swing of the fan blade is a bit less as more and more energy is bled off due to friction. The "loss of impact" is irrelevant.
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what we are building is a machine that has mastered the art of moving the weight roughly from the 7 o’clock position back up to the one o’clock position so that the wheel is always having to let the heavier side fall.
Again, the missing bit is the relation between kinetic and potential energy. The bold bit is the key. Moving the weight up implies moving the weight against the force of gravity which requires energy. There is no way around this.
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The impossible or previously impossible task was to lift an object using less power than is gained by the falling object.
Yep, physics is a bitch, and it is still impossible to lift an object using less energy than is gained by the falling object. Real quick:
Energy is the capacity for doing work. Think of energy as money paid for work to be performed.
Work is movement in the direction of a force. When the force of gravity pulls a boulder down a hill, work is being done. If I push against a wall and nothing moves, although I am 'using' energy, no work is done.
Power is the rate of doing work, or the rate of 'using' energy.
His use of the word power is incorrect; power is not conserved in a closed system (though energy and momentum are).
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Key also to this was what even DaVinci himself missed, and that was that it takes less energy to move an object A) a shorter distance and B) on a diagonal slope.
I don't know about Da Vinci, but Sir Issac Newton got it correct (at non-relativistic speeds). Assuming no friction, it takes the exact same amount of energy to lift an object five meters straight up as it does to move the object up an inclined plane that is five meters high. The force required is different, due to the mechanical advantage of the inclined plane, but the energy expended is the same. Also, both examples will result in identical potential energy of the object at 5 meters (assuming the same object).
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The greatest bullshit theory ever presented to the world was by Tesla, who theorized...
Yeah, whatever... I'm done with this moron.
Edit: Not only is he confused about potential and kinetic energy, but he is using the words energy, power, and work interchangeably.
Also, I was replying to those that weren't sure if this was possible; not to the original poster. 
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DieCommie
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Re: The newest free energy nut [Re: Seuss]
#8368905 - 05/06/08 01:47 PM (6 months, 14 days ago) |
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Not only is he confused about potential and kinetic energy, but he is using the words energy, power, and work interchangeably.
 Fail.
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Re: The newest free energy nut [Re: DieCommie]
#8370198 - 05/06/08 06:55 PM (6 months, 14 days ago) |
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where is buddhahoodlum to prove this is true...what ever happened to that guy...the world wasn't changed by a free energy machine and he disappeared.
anyways, it would be great if it worked or was possible, but this is not the guy that is going to accomplish making it work, much less even prove that it is possible
peace
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