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Phred said:
I've said it before and I'll say it again, the best possible use of McCain's campaign money would be to play that clip -- completely unaltered -- as often as possible on as many TV channels as possible between now and the election.



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Agreed.


For anyone who's voting democratic to get us out of iraq, this is further proof of the illusory differences between the parties on any issue of relevance.  Perhaps we can debate about abortion or gays, there's a real difference   (I'm presuming McCain has backed away from his respectable state's rights position on gay marriage given his new found nomination?  I expect him too anyway, logic, law, and principle don't seem to mix with ambition in this country.)


This should be another wake up call to democrats who think the democratic party is somehow different than the things they don't like about the republicans, and the republicans here seem to recognize the conservative ambitions of the republican party is all but a ruse and talking point now.


You dems... did you watch the first couple of debates?  Did you notice any difference between the parties?  I didn't.  Especially in Iraq.  So much for the midterms sending a clear message, the dems did jack shit.  The candidates promised nothing, and agreed with the republicans.


Then they suddenly changed when the race got tight.  But look what happens now, back to the same old stuff.


Now I'm not taking a position on this issue on the merits, I'd just like to point out that there is no reason to suspect a McCain presidency will be any different in the manner in which he handles the war than obama.  Both will be worried about reelection and both will have the same pressures.  But right now, as it was in the begining of the race pre-primaries, the dems and republicans are the same on iraq.


Vote for third parties.  Stop this nonsense.  They are both the same.

(I'll grant you Obama's stupid capital gains tax fetish is a difference as well as his desire for universal health care, but the country appears to be in favor of such and McCain probably wouldn't have the balls to veto a bill that was presented to him anyways.)

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Right~more troops in Iraq, it's working!!!
Left~get them out ASAP, but responsibly!!!

How is that alike???

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zappaisgod said:
The difference is not entirely illusory.  There is zero doubt in my mind that a Demo controlled Congress and Executive will be hugely costly in taxes.  If you are a no account bum, this is good news.  If you work, this is bad news.  Then there is the damage to the Supreme Court.  I know Roe is a huge lodestone for libs but it is so firmly entrenched in it's unconstitutionality as to be virtually sacrosanct.  But with another lib justice you can expect to see a lot more Kelos and a lot fewer DC gun law decisions.

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The above observation is the reason I cannot vote for Obama.  The masses say that we cannot afford Iraq, but fail to realize the disaster awaiting us with a Democrat-controlled government.  (Plus they have the same Iraq policy as McCain.)

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kriminalelement said:
I've become increasingly disheartened with Barack Obama. He just voted to give cell phone companies immunity on wire tapping.

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Still, at least he's not going to try to force adults to buy health care.

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Prisoner#1 said:


but obama doesnt support special intrests, he even said so

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