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AcidHorse
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I got morel sclerotia growing in numbers finally
#8395222 - 05/13/08 01:11 AM (6 months, 16 days ago) |
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small close up of one of them


picked so many morels this year. I got over a gram of yellow morel spores! I was doing lines of morel dust! Muhahaha! I felt like Hyde from "Doctor Jekyll and Mr Hyde back together again!" "smoooooooth" LOL
And yes they are solid masses, not a knit bunch of tight hyphae.
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Edited by AcidHorse (05/13/08 01:32 AM)
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UrbanFungi
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Re: I got morel sclerotia growing in numbers finally [Re: AcidHorse]
#8395975 - 05/13/08 09:53 AM (6 months, 16 days ago) |
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I've been meaning to ask, how deep did you dig to find sclerotia in the wild?
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Hotnuts
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Re: I got morel sclerotia growing in numbers finally [Re: UrbanFungi]
#8396059 - 05/13/08 10:14 AM (6 months, 16 days ago) |
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I think yellows are the way to go. I was having problems with the sclerotia degenerating with the blacks I couldn't figure out why. I was reading through GGMM a couple of days ago and ran across some information on blacks that stated they easily loose their ability to produce sclerotia as the transfers and time goes on. I wonder how people keep their strains going for so long? I suppose they aren't too worried with production of sclerotia in plates. I guess eventually the strain will produce at some time.
I've got yellows and landscapes i'll be messing with soon enough.
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AcidHorse
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Re: I got morel sclerotia growing in numbers finally [Re: AcidHorse]
#8397562 - 05/13/08 04:38 PM (6 months, 16 days ago) |
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Well that is a difficult question to answer. From what I have seen, for example with the large blonde morels - thick-foots, I have seen large growths underground/underneath where the root base produces the fruit. Now I've been speculating about whether these are just satellite sclerotia that are connected to a larger sclerotium deeper in the ground or just located further away from the fruit. Or, even still, if these are the one and only sclerotia that develop the fruit. But this last is the most likely assumption, since I've seen they will develop half and half sometimes half in and half out of the dirt, and some completely in the dirt. They have the same feel as the stem of the mushroom and same consistency as the stem, which is rubbery, yet fused/enmeshed with the soil around it. And if dug out of the dirt with the mushroom it usually has the appearance that it is a large root or tuber. Water can be squeezed from them, where it exudes out much like water squeezed from a sponge. The smaller morels, in the interior of the woods, have a similar situation but with a smaller sclerotium that isn't as evident, sometimes these are connected to roots of ground ivy or dutchman's breeches or some other type of plant, which I believe they sap some nutrients from them. The dirt is clay, orangish or grey clay and not much humus mixed with it. They seem to stay smaller or late in growth in the interior where it is heavily covered with leaves and super shaded. Funny thing I found a tiny morel growing on a beechnut husk/shell no chance of a sclerotium there except in the ground. I also saw the big blondes coming up in a part of the woods where the ground wasn't totally covered with beech leaves (the actual dirt could be seen between a few number of leaves; light layer of leaves), it was marshy and next to the edge of the woods where direct wind and rain could hit. The beech trees were young near the edge and larger toward the interior, and there was evidence a few big trees fell and burnt due to lightning (black charred wood). So it seems high air velocity and huge amounts of water, and nutrients from the blackened wood gave rise to huge morels. The location was southwestern (per the lake position) and flat near the outside of some huge woods that declined towards the huge longitudal elliptic lake the woods surround. The jetstream delivered storms from southwest going northeast as a yearly average.
 You can see a cornfield that is adjacent to the position, which you could see from inside the woods. Direct airflow unhindered, direct rain...
Edited by AcidHorse (05/13/08 05:41 PM)
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