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MAN! no no no
listen, you already kind of blew it by "telling her how you feel", man!
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Let me tell you something. When you tell a girl 'how you feel'(especially if your not even with her as a couple or you guys haven't advanced at all physically), you do something very bad. YOU GIVE HER THE POWER. You gave your power away to her man, completely. Now that she knows without a grain of doubt that you want her, she has the power and knows that she can have YOU whenever SHE wants. She has the lever in her hand, not you and this is not good.
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Women like a guy who is in control, who is dominant but not domineering, who is sure of himself, who has his own life and is not drooling over other women, who is NOT CLINGY or NEEDY, who is cocky and funny, who is unpredictable, NOT boring and a CHALLENGE.
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You, my friend, are no longer unpredictable, un-clingy and un-needy, NOT boring and no longer a challenge for her anymore, because you spilled your guts. SHe knows how you feel about her, and she can expect you to give her no challenge, no anticipation and nothing unpredictable now. If you guys were to be together, I feel it is plausible she could easily think she could walk all over you and get anything she wants from you.
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You see, we humans, generally RUN from what chases and pursues us. Familiarity breeds contempt. In this case, you are the selectee, she is the selector. She is being pursued, you have/are done/doing the pursuing. Lovers are pursued, providers do the pursuing. Don't be a provider
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And man! why are you talking about relationship stuff to her when she already has a BF!? She doesn't need or want another 'friend' talking to her about relationship  stuff and her problems and bladi bla. That is what her girlfriends are for. Do you want to be her girlfriend? Well talking about stuff like that will land you smack dab in the 'friends zone'. She wants a guy that can build anticipation for her, make her laugh, make her excited, make her go "I can't believe you just said that!' and hit you on the arm, make her forget about relationship stuff and her boyfriend.
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From past exp., I have learned that the more a girl talks about her 'relationship status', and especially the more a girl brings up her BF name, the worse the  situation and the bigger the hole one digs themself into.
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Basically man, as much as you probably don't want to do it, you gotta move on, and wait for her to come to you again. If you pursue her at this point you will continue to emit FLASHING NEON WUSS-BAG SIGNS to her. You won't give her the gift of 'missing you'. You will show her you're desperate, clingy, needy, predictable, and to put it simply, not attractive(not in a physical sense).
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Whenever in life you feel you have lost, or are loosing power with a women, stop, step back, and wait for her to come to you. This is precisely the situation you are currently in.....I advise you to read over this again......
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I hope you got some insight from this, and good luck in the future, man.

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WornTraveler said:
Anyone who I'd have to behave like that with in order to achieve a successful relationship is, in my opinion, not worth having a relationship.

For a bunch of druggies, some of you guys on this forum are totally cynical. Every person I've ever smoked/tripped with, from age 16 to age 54, have all been totally laid back and honest, and generally good people too, with the exception of one fuck who it became my solemn duty to beat the shit out of after he tried pushing marijuana on an eleven year old. I guess I figured most cannabis/shroom users were like that, but man, some of you are just as fucked up as non-users.

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Anyone who I'd have to behave like that with in order to achieve a successful relationship is, in my opinion, not worth having a relationship.

For a bunch of druggies, some of you guys on this forum are totally cynical. Every person I've ever smoked/tripped with, from age 16 to age 54, have all been totally laid back and honest, and generally good people too, with the exception of one fuck who it became my solemn duty to beat the shit out of after he tried pushing marijuana on an eleven year old. I guess I figured most cannabis/shroom users were like that, but man, some of you are just as fucked up as non-users.

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Maybe you're just unaware of the mammalian rituals that you and everyone else is biologically compelled to go through. People are so predictable.

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I wouldn't say anyone is compelled to go through anything. Your behavior is your own responsibility, and I honestly think that any woman worth getting to know would be mature enough to put the mind games and deception aside. Then again, I might be coming at this from a different angle than most people. My objective is a lasting relationship- some people are just trying to get sex as quickly as possible.

Eh, if it works for them, more power to 'em, but personally, I feel like a sexless relationship where both people really care about each other would be a lot more rewarding than ten relationships where the only objective is 15-20 minutes of exercise followed by about thirty seconds of euphoria, as often as possible. Doesn't sound all that worth it when you describe it that way

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I wouldn't say anyone is compelled to go through anything. Your behavior is your own responsibility, and I honestly think that any woman worth getting to know would be mature enough to put the mind games and deception aside.

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....where the only objective is 15-20 minutes of exercise followed by about thirty seconds of euphoria, as often as possible. Doesn't sound all that worth it when you describe it that way

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Of course not, but then I wouldn't describe it that way because that isn't how it is, at least for me.

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Anyone who I'd have to behave like that with in order to achieve a successful relationship is, in my opinion, not worth having a relationship.

For a bunch of druggies, some of you guys on this forum are totally cynical. Every person I've ever smoked/tripped with, from age 16 to age 54, have all been totally laid back and honest, and generally good people too, with the exception of one fuck who it became my solemn duty to beat the shit out of after he tried pushing marijuana on an eleven year old. I guess I figured most cannabis/shroom users were like that, but man, some of you are just as fucked up as non-users.

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Maybe you're just unaware of the mammalian rituals that you and everyone else is biologically compelled to go through. People are so predictable.

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I wouldn't say anyone is compelled to go through anything. Your behavior is your own responsibility, and I honestly think that any woman worth getting to know would be mature enough to put the mind games and deception aside. Then again, I might be coming at this from a different angle than most people. My objective is a lasting relationship- some people are just trying to get sex as quickly as possible.

Eh, if it works for them, more power to 'em, but personally, I feel like a sexless relationship where both people really care about each other would be a lot more rewarding than ten relationships where the only objective is 15-20 minutes of exercise followed by about thirty seconds of euphoria, as often as possible. Doesn't sound all that worth it when you describe it that way

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Anyone who I'd have to behave like that with in order to achieve a successful relationship is, in my opinion, not worth having a relationship.

For a bunch of druggies, some of you guys on this forum are totally cynical. Every person I've ever smoked/tripped with, from age 16 to age 54, have all been totally laid back and honest, and generally good people too, with the exception of one fuck who it became my solemn duty to beat the shit out of after he tried pushing marijuana on an eleven year old. I guess I figured most cannabis/shroom users were like that, but man, some of you are just as fucked up as non-users.

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Maybe you're just unaware of the mammalian rituals that you and everyone else is biologically compelled to go through. People are so predictable.

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I wouldn't say anyone is compelled to go through anything. Your behavior is your own responsibility, and I honestly think that any woman worth getting to know would be mature enough to put the mind games and deception aside. Then again, I might be coming at this from a different angle than most people. My objective is a lasting relationship- some people are just trying to get sex as quickly as possible.

Eh, if it works for them, more power to 'em, but personally, I feel like a sexless relationship where both people really care about each other would be a lot more rewarding than ten relationships where the only objective is 15-20 minutes of exercise followed by about thirty seconds of euphoria, as often as possible. Doesn't sound all that worth it when you describe it that way

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No offense, I dont mean to come off sounding like an cunt here, but if you dont notice the robotic way that almost everyone goes about life in general your simply just not aware of it. We are primates, and almost everyone I see goes about life exactly like you would expect a primate to do. Most just arent aware of it.

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