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 xFrockx
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 How/Are men and women different and why?
#8563937 - 06/25/08 07:13 PM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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I feel that the genders of our species are equal but different. It makes sense to me that men and women play different roles in our society, in part because it seems undeniable that men and women are different biologically. These differences have their own strengths and weaknesses, but this isn't a bad thing, its just how it is.
For example, for our species to continue it is necessary for us to reproduce. Women carry the child, and therefore a large part of their self revolves around safely carrying, and subsequently caring for a child. While a woman is pregnant she isn't helpless, but lets face it, she needs help. Men fill the gaps in this repect very well. Women can handle daily life while pregnant, but in terms of fighting off possible predators and doing hard labor to ensure the safety of the child, it takes a man.
I don't want to sound like I am a know it all about men, but being one it seems like most of us may seem to have a hard exterior, but when it comes to our woman we will do anything for her. Women can be selfish sometimes, but thats just natural, they need to care for themselves as best as possible to have kids. Men can be selfish, but good men can easily be distinguished from bad men by how they handle the responsibility of caring for their young. Sometimes the drive to spread seed overcomes this, but in a society like ours who can really blame some people. Good women won't put up with a bad man's bullshit though, especially if their child is threatened. Sometimes men just need a reality check to pull their balls out of their head, and women are always the best at doing this.
What I think it all boils down to a few words to live by.
Good women tell men what to do, good men do it.
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I want to tell you a story,
About a little man,
If I can,
A gnome named Grimble Grumble,
And little gnomes stay in their homes,
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Rahz
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Re: How/Are men and women different and why? [Re: xFrockx]
#8563961 - 06/25/08 07:18 PM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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>>>>Good women tell men what to do, good men do it. 
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rahz
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 Icelander
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Re: How/Are men and women different and why? [Re: Rahz]
#8563976 - 06/25/08 07:23 PM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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Yeah pretty dysfunctional.
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What the thinker thinks, the prover proves. R.A.W.
I don't believe anything, but I have many suspicions. R.A.W.
embrace death in all the ways it comes no matter how soft or hard. cruel ,tragic,weak,light, gentle, ect how ever. thats life
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xFrockx
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Re: How/Are men and women different and why? [Re: Rahz]
#8564025 - 06/25/08 07:34 PM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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What I meant by this is that men sometimes get into a testosterone fuled spitting contest over nothing, and sometimes women can cut through the games to make sure that men are doing what is best for their children, not their cocks. Does that make more sense now?
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I want to tell you a story,
About a little man,
If I can,
A gnome named Grimble Grumble,
And little gnomes stay in their homes,
Eating, sleeping, Drinking their wine
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xFrockx
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Re: How/Are men and women different and why? [Re: Icelander]
#8564033 - 06/25/08 07:35 PM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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I know this will merit a sarchastic reply, but do you have anything else to bring to the table other than that baseless observation?
When I'm wrong, I like to be told why.
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I want to tell you a story,
About a little man,
If I can,
A gnome named Grimble Grumble,
And little gnomes stay in their homes,
Eating, sleeping, Drinking their wine
Edited by xFrockx (06/25/08 07:35 PM)
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grymmtymm
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Re: How/Are men and women different and why? [Re: xFrockx]
#8564060 - 06/25/08 07:41 PM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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penises and vaginas. ha ha. i said vagina. ha ha.
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Icelander
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Re: How/Are men and women different and why? [Re: xFrockx]
#8564100 - 06/25/08 07:47 PM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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Quote:
xFrockx said:
I know this will merit a sarchastic reply, but do you have anything else to bring to the table other than that baseless observation?
When I'm wrong, I like to be told why.
Good men do what good women tell them to do? Come on do I have to explain how sexist that is? 
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What the thinker thinks, the prover proves. R.A.W.
I don't believe anything, but I have many suspicions. R.A.W.
embrace death in all the ways it comes no matter how soft or hard. cruel ,tragic,weak,light, gentle, ect how ever. thats life
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Penguarky Tunguin
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Re: How/Are men and women different and why? [Re: xFrockx]
#8564117 - 06/25/08 07:50 PM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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Quote:
xFrockx said:
It makes sense to me that men and women play different roles in our society, in part because it seems undeniable that men and women are different biologically.
I stopped reading after that line. 
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blewmeanie
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Re: How/Are men and women different and why? [Re: Icelander]
#8564125 - 06/25/08 07:51 PM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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Icelander said:
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xFrockx said:
I know this will merit a sarchastic reply, but do you have anything else to bring to the table other than that baseless observation?
When I'm wrong, I like to be told why.
Good men do what good women tell them to do? Come on do I have to explain how sexist that is?
Are you forgetting how brainwashed people tend to be? If you hear someones opinion for long enough it becomes fact.
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All are lunatics, but he who can analyze his delusions is called a philosopher.
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Icelander
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Re: How/Are men and women different and why? [Re: blewmeanie]
#8564159 - 06/25/08 08:00 PM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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The Icelander forgets nothing.
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What the thinker thinks, the prover proves. R.A.W.
I don't believe anything, but I have many suspicions. R.A.W.
embrace death in all the ways it comes no matter how soft or hard. cruel ,tragic,weak,light, gentle, ect how ever. thats life
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blewmeanie
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Re: How/Are men and women different and why? [Re: Icelander]
#8564169 - 06/25/08 08:02 PM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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All are lunatics, but he who can analyze his delusions is called a philosopher.
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Icelander
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Re: How/Are men and women different and why? [Re: blewmeanie]
#8564182 - 06/25/08 08:04 PM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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I hear lots of opinions around here that never will become fact for me. 
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What the thinker thinks, the prover proves. R.A.W.
I don't believe anything, but I have many suspicions. R.A.W.
embrace death in all the ways it comes no matter how soft or hard. cruel ,tragic,weak,light, gentle, ect how ever. thats life
Edited by Icelander (06/25/08 08:05 PM)
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blewmeanie
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Re: How/Are men and women different and why? [Re: Icelander]
#8564196 - 06/25/08 08:07 PM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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Jesus loves you, and women know whats best....now go reproduce, and and denounce the evils of homosexuality!
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All are lunatics, but he who can analyze his delusions is called a philosopher.
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xFrockx
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Re: How/Are men and women different and why? [Re: blewmeanie]
#8564210 - 06/25/08 08:13 PM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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I can't find philosophical debate here to save my life.
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I want to tell you a story,
About a little man,
If I can,
A gnome named Grimble Grumble,
And little gnomes stay in their homes,
Eating, sleeping, Drinking their wine
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Icelander
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Re: How/Are men and women different and why? [Re: xFrockx]
#8564221 - 06/25/08 08:15 PM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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Try a web site where the average age isn't 22.
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What the thinker thinks, the prover proves. R.A.W.
I don't believe anything, but I have many suspicions. R.A.W.
embrace death in all the ways it comes no matter how soft or hard. cruel ,tragic,weak,light, gentle, ect how ever. thats life
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xFrockx
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Re: How/Are men and women different and why? [Re: Icelander]
#8564235 - 06/25/08 08:21 PM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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I'm only 20, I guess I just have more faith in people. I may have posted some mindless BS, but at least I tried to make a point. It seems like too often people substitute this forum for masturbation.
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I want to tell you a story,
About a little man,
If I can,
A gnome named Grimble Grumble,
And little gnomes stay in their homes,
Eating, sleeping, Drinking their wine
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Re: How/Are men and women different and why? [Re: xFrockx]
#8564597 - 06/25/08 10:12 PM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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Equal: We all have the right to be here, and to be treated fairly. We all have the right to equal opportunity in so much as we have desire and ability. This extends into relationships as far as I'm concerned, and it's more a matter of finding people who compliment each other, and less a matter of fitting into pre-determined roles.
Different: There are exceptions, but generally males are masculine and females are feminine. This, IMO, is quite natural and not simply the product of social engineering. Men lead, women follow. However, if the male isn't actually manly, the woman isn't going to want to follow him. She will either lead the relationship while the passion dies (if it was ever there), or she will bail out.
Masculine - strong (like a rock), unmovable, silent.
Feminine - yielding (like water), expressive.
Of course, we all have our masculine and feminine side. But if the relationship goes beyond convenience/social proof and is actually there because it is desired then the man will usually lean towards being masculine, and the woman will lean towards being feminine. This is what creates polarity and passion, which is generally more desirable than marriage/house/kids/retirement/death. The more polarity, the more passion.
Also worth mentioning, is that females decide upon the relationship. The man can express interest, but it's the woman who is "in charge" of deciding if she's going to be with him. The man can lead, but it's the woman who is in charge of deciding if she's going to follow. So, the apparent imbalance of power from leading/following, is an illusion.
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Icelander
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Re: How/Are men and women different and why? [Re: xFrockx]
#8565886 - 06/26/08 08:51 AM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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Quote:
xFrockx said:
I'm only 20, I guess I just have more faith in people. I may have posted some mindless BS, but at least I tried to make a point. It seems like too often people substitute this forum for masturbation.
Everything happens here. Even great posts occasionally. Remember this place is for entertainment for the most part. Everybody has a different idea of what that is and that can change from day to day.
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What the thinker thinks, the prover proves. R.A.W.
I don't believe anything, but I have many suspicions. R.A.W.
embrace death in all the ways it comes no matter how soft or hard. cruel ,tragic,weak,light, gentle, ect how ever. thats life
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Re: How/Are men and women different and why? [Re: Rahz]
#8565942 - 06/26/08 09:20 AM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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Rahz said:
Also worth mentioning, is that females decide upon the relationship. The man can express interest, but it's the woman who is "in charge" of deciding if she's going to be with him. The man can lead, but it's the woman who is in charge of deciding if she's going to follow. So, the apparent imbalance of power from leading/following, is an illusion.
Everything you just wrote is totally bogus. This may reflect the pattern of relationship that you get in, I will grant you that, but there are millions of exceptions. I'm a man and I'd like to know why I am not "in charge" of deciding whether or not I am in a relationship. And can you show me the physical attritubes of a human female that prevent her from leading, or expressing interest in a man or another woman?
No you can't, because they don't exist.
I will break it down into simple terms.
Boys have a penis, girls have a vagina. The difference between the male sex and the female sex is 100% physical.
Beyond that, we have gender, which is mostly determined by society. (If we are lucky, Veritas will take some time out of her day to give us a little lesson on hormones and human development). There is nothing to prevent a man from acting in ways that are considered "feminine:" being expressive, creative, or nurturing. And there is nothing preventing a woman from being "masculine:" taking control, being competitive, physically strong and hard working.
Nothing, that is, except for the fact that most people accept the gender role they are assigned without question and then spend the rest of their lives repressing themselves whenever the natural instinct to behave a different way comes up. Hence the sense of shame or vulnerability men feel when they try and hug one another and the fear that it means they are "gay." Or the sense of hesitation that girls feel in raising their hands in the classroom with the right answer for fear that it is not their place.
Gender roles divide up and parcel out behaviors are universal to all humans. The type of thinking that you are putting forward here limits both men and women. IMO, life is too short to decide that, based on the fact that you have a particular set of genitalia, it means that you have to feel/think/act in a limited set of ways. Why put that limitation on yourself when we live in such liberating times? Leave gender behind.
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but government at its best is but a necessary evil
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Re: How/Are men and women different and why? [Re: xFrockx]
#8566011 - 06/26/08 09:50 AM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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Quote:
xFrockx said:
I feel that the genders of our species are equal but different. Good women tell men what to do, good men do it.
Good? Bad? What is the difference?
Both genders did not wait our modern social laws, they have evolved to protect themself and do what is best for them.
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