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 OrgoneConclusion
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 Cannabis Torture
#8415262 - 05/18/08 01:03 AM (6 months, 2 days ago) |
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On cloning:
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You keep some plants that are known to be female because they came from a known female plants and always give them at least 18 hours of light. They think its always summer so they keep growing new branches. You keep cutting them off and planting them. After they have rooted you put them in 12 hours light, twelve hours dark. They think its getting to be fall so the start producing flowers so they can be pollinated by a male plant before winter sets in and kills them. They produce more flowers hoping to get pollinated.
1. So first we cut them with a knife.
2. Then we deceive them with false lighting schedules.
3. Then we sexually frustrate them.
Doesn't seem very ethical at all. 
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Edited by OrgoneConclusion (05/18/08 01:19 AM)
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 DieCommie
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Fits my ethical framework, thankfully. 
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Middleman
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We are servants to the development her gene pool, she rewards us with inspiration and relaxation provided by her sex syrup.
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Compass
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Yeah, it seems gross to me.
If it was legal hopefully some people could get enough THC without having to torture the plant.
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DieCommie
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 Re: Cannabis Torture [Re: Middleman]
#8415291 - 05/18/08 01:16 AM (6 months, 2 days ago) |
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We are servants to the development her gene pool
As with all domesticated/cultivated animals and plants, no?
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OrgoneConclusion
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Re: Cannabis Torture [Re: DieCommie]
#8415296 - 05/18/08 01:18 AM (6 months, 2 days ago) |
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And if she survives steps 1-3, then we burn her at the stake.
At the same time we lobby for MMJ for 'compassionate' reasons. 
It is all about us, isn't it?
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Middleman
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Quote:
OrgoneConclusion said:
1. So first we cut them with a knife.
So were we at birth. The plant wants to spread, it likes to be cut.
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2. Then we deceive them with false lighting schedules.
They aren't deceived, they can sense the position and rhythm of the Moon and Sun.
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3. Then we sexually frustrate them.
We actually overexcite them, the females can't tell where their pollen is going.
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Doesn't seem very ethical at all.
Nothing wrong with symbiotic domestication, imo.
It's mass production that is the travesty.
I guess it's all in how the operator approaches it.
Darwin called Man a 'domesticated animal'
I suspect something might be 'getting high' on us.
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OrgoneConclusion
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Re: Cannabis Torture [Re: Middleman]
#8415313 - 05/18/08 01:29 AM (6 months, 2 days ago) |
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That is very deep. I might have to spark up and ponder the ramifications...
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PhanTomCat
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Quote:
OrgoneConclusion said:
1. So first we cut them with a knife.
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2. Then we deceive them with false lighting schedules.
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3. Then we sexually frustrate them.
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Doesn't seem very ethical at all.
4) then plucked from their life giving soil
5) hung up to die and "cure" in close knit quarters with the rest of the ripe sexually frustrated sticky sisters
6) then it's body parts are cut up into manageable pieces
7) packed into plastic baggies
8) sold on the streets like a weed
9) packed up in a tightly rolled paper blanket or packed in a bowl
10) then lit on fire
For the purpose of giving humans a pleasurable buzz....!?
We are all going to MJ hell.... 
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You know what? It's torture when a cannabis plant dies in vain, when the THC doesn't fit into a brain that could use it. It's torture when the plant doesn't get to guide someone to new thoughts.
Cannabis exists as medicine, fiber, food and as a tonic for the mind. It always has done, and always will. To not use it is to mock it.
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xFrockx
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I was expecting to see a discussion based around using cannabis to torture another person, lol. I guess a combination of deprivation + forced viewing of dank nuggets could count.
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backfromthedead
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Every site that is cloned will produce two or more shoots in response. Branching vigor is the result.
My babies like 24 hrs light for veg. No rest.
I 12/12 em just long enough for them to drop their panties.
'It is all about us, isn't it?'
Well, yes dammit. She doesn't mind. 3 part hydro nutes plus Liquid Karma as additive and foliar feed = Dark Green healthy girl.
'the females can't tell where their pollen is going.'
Females produce no pollen.
When I was going through losing and recovering my mind, I once asked a psychiatrist if your brain responds like a plant...
I was like when you cut the thing down do you get two smaller shoots??
This is what it felt like, to me. Two shoots. Bipolar.
He didn't think that was very funny at all.
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Re: Cannabis Torture [Re: Middleman]
#8415899 - 05/18/08 10:28 AM (6 months, 2 days ago) |
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Quote:
Middleman said:
We are servants to the development her gene pool, she rewards us with inspiration and relaxation provided by her sex syrup.
Sex syrup? More like protection syrup.
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Middleman said:
We actually overexcite them, the females can't tell where their pollen is going.
No, this doesn't make any sense. Sexual frustration is much more apt to describe what occurs because what happens is that the female plants aren't provided with male pollen; thus, seed production never begins to divert energy otherwise put into bud production. Females don't have pollen.
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Re: Cannabis Torture [Re: xFrockx]
#8415916 - 05/18/08 10:33 AM (6 months, 2 days ago) |
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xFrockx said:
I guess a combination of deprivation + forced viewing of dank nuggets could count.
It most certainly counts. 
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Oweyervishice
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Quote:
OrgoneConclusion said:
On cloning:
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You keep some plants that are known to be female because they came from a known female plants and always give them at least 18 hours of light. They think its always summer so they keep growing new branches. You keep cutting them off and planting them. After they have rooted you put them in 12 hours light, twelve hours dark. They think its getting to be fall so the start producing flowers so they can be pollinated by a male plant before winter sets in and kills them. They produce more flowers hoping to get pollinated.
1. So first we cut them with a knife.
2. Then we deceive them with false lighting schedules.
3. Then we sexually frustrate them.
Doesn't seem very ethical at all.
I guess torture makes bud taste better, just like with meat! 
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Tchan909
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Visionary Tools said:
Cannabis exists as medicine, fiber, food and as a tonic for the mind. It always has done, and always will. To not use it is to mock it.
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not necessarily stoned, but... beautiful.
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aDoS
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it doesn't have a brain so I don't think it can really give a shit about what you are doing to it.
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OrgoneConclusion
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Re: Cannabis Torture [Re: aDoS]
#8417668 - 05/18/08 06:57 PM (6 months, 1 day ago) |
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Yet shrooms are sentient...
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the plant "wants" to do what it does naturally
free in the open sun for the full growing season and every plant making sexy
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OC if it's really bothering your conscience so badly you should just pack it all up and send it to me. I would hate for you to stay up night after sleepless night worrying about it.
I'm here for you brother. Let me lighten your load. 
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