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 Chronic777
 
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 A Beautiful Message...
#8209300 - 03/29/08 04:55 AM (7 months, 21 days ago) |
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The root cause of all suffering is the sense of separate existence. We have a divisive consciousness that perceives things as the me and the not me, the mine and the not mine, as my people and yours, as my nation and yours. Having divided all things, we feel threatened by the other. Fear in turn breeds war, conflict and further forms of violence.
Are we then beyond redemption? Are we to remain a bunch of pessimistic philosophers or apathetic on-lookers bemoaning our collective doom? Not necessarily.
We as a race are on the brink of a colossal transition from one of separation to that of Oneness. We would awaken from darkness to light, from untruth to truth. We would realize the oneness of all living things.
Though each of us may live different lives, located away from each other in space and time, we are biologically, emotionally and spiritually one.
There is only one body. What happens to the animals in the seas, happens to us - men and women. What happens to the forests happens to us in our bodies, since our bodies like the trees are made of the same earth. Are not our bodies moving clay forms endowed with intelligence?
A conscientious effort at healing the earth would manifest as the ultimate healing of our own bodies.
There is only one mind. This is the mind that has flowed through our fore fathers, us and would in turn continue to live through our children and their progeny. The collective torment or fear suffered by our own brethren in one part of the world would manifest as sleeping or waking nightmares to someone else-where in the world. Our pleasures and pains are interminably interlinked. We are one and cannot continue to live any further in an illusion of separation.
There is only one consciousness. We live in a holographic universe. Every individual, awakening into oneness is automatically affecting a few thousand people pushing them towards the only sane alternative way of experiencing reality.
Our experience of reality having changed we would go on to discovering newer ways of living and loving. We would create a better planet for the present and the future. This is our shared destiny.
Sri Bhagavan
Thoughts?   
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truekimbo2
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Re: A Beautiful Message... [Re: Chronic777]
#8209302 - 03/29/08 04:58 AM (7 months, 21 days ago) |
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i don't know how old that quote is, but my thoughts are:
that was probably a revolutionary message 100 years ago, but now adays its used by people trying to sell stuff.
and regardless i'm ready for something new.
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Re: A Beautiful Message... [Re: Chronic777]
#8209309 - 03/29/08 05:16 AM (7 months, 21 days ago) |
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It is the usual nonsense. If we are all one consciousness and separateness is merely an illusion, then who are you trying to convince?
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Chronic777
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Im not trying to convince anyone of anything lol i just wanted to post a nice message for the start of the day. 
I cant wait until you witness the changes in the world from these messages of awakening, not so i can prove me right or you wrong, but so you too can feel this love flowering from your heart.
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OrgoneConclusion
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Re: A Beautiful Message... [Re: Chronic777]
#8209819 - 03/29/08 11:16 AM (7 months, 21 days ago) |
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You miss the point as usual. 
Which is the separate part that is trying to convince the other separate part that they are not separate?
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WScottsdale
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Quote:
OrgoneConclusion said:
You miss the point as usual.
Which is the separate part that is trying to convince the other separate part that they are not separate?
I think the quotation in his signature addresses your question rather well.
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Chronic777
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LOL im not trying to convince anyone that would be pointless, thats your take onit, im posting it for those that get the message because they understand it, just as nice early morning message.
I am not trying to convert or do anything to anyone man, that is such a defensive attitude to have tbh, anything anyone says to you if its spiritually based, theyre tryna convert you lol!!! That seems to be your attitude.
That is actually quite revealing, that you take such offense to such a simple statement...If you don't agree then fine but understand i am not trying to convince anyone of anything. Trying to make believers out of non believers is not my goal at all!
Does it not occur to you that i posted it for people other then you to read? This forum is about spirituality aswell remember.
Id love to know where you live and tell loads of mormons, chrsitians, jehovas witness' that you'd be willing to listen to them, thats if they can find the bridge that you crawl out from under to post here....
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OrgoneConclusion
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Re: A Beautiful Message... [Re: WScottsdale]
#8209875 - 03/29/08 11:49 AM (7 months, 21 days ago) |
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I don't think it addresses it all.
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Divinatory
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Re: A Beautiful Message... [Re: Chronic777]
#8210038 - 03/29/08 12:26 PM (7 months, 21 days ago) |
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Thanks for posting!
I've read this before, very meaningful words.
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Icelander
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Re: A Beautiful Message... [Re: Chronic777]
#8214660 - 03/30/08 01:45 PM (7 months, 20 days ago) |
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The root cause of all suffering is the sense of separate existence.
Wrong IMO. The root of all suffering is attachment to anything. Neurosis in other words. Outside of that being seperate is just part of the way things are in material reality. Which by the way is the only reality we know.
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What the thinker thinks, the prover proves. R.A.W.
I don't believe anything, but I have many suspicions. R.A.W.
embrace death in all the ways it comes no matter how soft or hard. cruel ,tragic,weak,light, gentle, ect how ever. thats life
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deranger
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Re: A Beautiful Message... [Re: Icelander]
#8214791 - 03/30/08 02:09 PM (7 months, 19 days ago) |
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yeah, we will always have a sense of separate existence, it is the joy of being human. duality is what allows us to play with ourself (non-sexually speaking).
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"you're in a boat, you choose the color of the boat
the boat's on the ocean
the ocean represents your spirit, your emotions, and your life
and the life that you're living is the boat, you're in the boat
you have an anchor, that you don't know you have, it's an invisible anchor
when you see it, that's when you'll be seen"
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Re: A Beautiful Message... [Re: Chronic777]
#8215955 - 03/30/08 07:04 PM (7 months, 19 days ago) |
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We are the way by which the universe perceives itself.
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I want to tell you a story,
About a little man,
If I can,
A gnome named Grimble Grumble,
And little gnomes stay in their homes,
Eating, sleeping, Drinking their wine
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allisthesame
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Re: A Beautiful Message... [Re: xFrockx]
#8217763 - 03/31/08 12:52 AM (7 months, 19 days ago) |
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Well, I like the message so I'm not gonna argue with it... but I am gonna argue with you you and you.
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OrgoneConclusion said:
I don't think it addresses it all.
I think it does. You talk as if he doesn't know what you could possibly mean and he is giving you a parable to start your day of exsitence on Earth. If you don't need it then it doesn't need you, and plus why be so bitchy about it. And BTW, nice job ignoring my bro because he explained how his signature addressed your ass directly.
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Icelander said:
The root cause of all suffering is the sense of separate existence.
Wrong IMO. The root of all suffering is attachment to anything. Neurosis in other words. Outside of that being seperate is just part of the way things are in material reality. Which by the way is the only reality we know.
You can know more then you think you know.
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SyntheticMInd said:
yeah, we will always have a sense of separate existence, it is the joy of being human. duality is what allows us to play with ourself (non-sexually speaking).
But don't we have responsibilities as humans to uphold our righteousness and provide for a better world. WE cannot only play but WE must provide for our mother Earth. Otherwise father G O D is gonna come and go and the world will be unable to thrive... with lack of energy, sustenance and abundant love. The love we all want and need, unconditional or not.
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A spot of Sunshine: We are energy,... matter is energy that simply has been reduced to a crawl and condensed together to form something.
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Chronic777
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Re: A Beautiful Message... [Re: Icelander]
#8219272 - 03/31/08 12:50 PM (7 months, 19 days ago) |
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Icelander said:
The root cause of all suffering is the sense of separate existence.
Wrong IMO. The root of all suffering is attachment to anything.
I agree, but why do we attach to things?
Because we perceive things as separate
Its the same thing?
get rid of separate perceptions=non attachment
non attachment=getting rid of separate perceptions
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fireworks_god
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Re: A Beautiful Message... [Re: Chronic777]
#8219374 - 03/31/08 01:13 PM (7 months, 19 days ago) |
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Quote:
Chronic777 said:
I agree, but why do we attach to things?
Because we perceive things as separate
Substantiation? 
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Meet me in outer space
We could spend the night;
watch the earth come up 
I've grown tired of that place;
won't you come with me?
We could start again.
 
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deranger
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allisthesame said:But don't we have responsibilities as humans to uphold our righteousness and provide for a better world. WE cannot only play but WE must provide for our mother Earth. Otherwise father G O D is gonna come and go and the world will be unable to thrive... with lack of energy, sustenance and abundant love. The love we all want and need, unconditional or not.
irrelevant...
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new progressive dubstep mix
"you're in a boat, you choose the color of the boat
the boat's on the ocean
the ocean represents your spirit, your emotions, and your life
and the life that you're living is the boat, you're in the boat
you have an anchor, that you don't know you have, it's an invisible anchor
when you see it, that's when you'll be seen"
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deranger
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Re: A Beautiful Message... [Re: Chronic777]
#8219554 - 03/31/08 01:53 PM (7 months, 19 days ago) |
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Quote:
Chronic777 said:
get rid of separate perceptions=non attachment
non attachment=getting rid of separate perceptions
non-attachment requires cultivation of self-awareness. if we simply focus on getting rid of certain perceptions they will come back. I don't think we can ever become fully detached, but sure we can get somewhere and effort is effective.
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new progressive dubstep mix
"you're in a boat, you choose the color of the boat
the boat's on the ocean
the ocean represents your spirit, your emotions, and your life
and the life that you're living is the boat, you're in the boat
you have an anchor, that you don't know you have, it's an invisible anchor
when you see it, that's when you'll be seen"
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Re: A Beautiful Message... [Re: deranger]
#8220097 - 03/31/08 03:47 PM (7 months, 18 days ago) |
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man, the dude came in and posted something with the idea that it is an uplifting message, which it is in the right mind set, but here everyone has come in hating on him and ripped his post to shreads.
why must every single post be overanalyzed and broken down to the point that by the end of this thread, it is so far off-topic that a person couldnt even decifer the message the original poster wanted to get across.
I thought it was a cool post. I enjoyed reading it. thanks for posting.
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Re: A Beautiful Message... [Re: Proskier]
#8220133 - 03/31/08 03:53 PM (7 months, 18 days ago) |
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Forum Rules:
If you choose to post in this forum be prepared to have your ideas and opinions challenged, refuted, disputed, rebutted, analyzed, shredded, pooh-poohed, and yes - even supported. If having your beliefs, opinions, and positions scrutinized critically makes you uncomfortable, this is not the forum for you.
The Mysticism forum is meant for sharing ideas without any possibility of disagreement or criticism.
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No man is free who is not master of himself.
~Epictetus.
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Re: A Beautiful Message... [Re: Veritas]
#8220146 - 03/31/08 03:56 PM (7 months, 18 days ago) |
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Yes, mom. 
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