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 cycoshitzo
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 i-doser
#8423964 - 05/20/08 12:10 PM (5 months, 29 days ago) |
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Has anyone heard of this program or even of the technique? They claim on the program that several of their sound files can induce psychedelic trips.
While the program and its files themselves may be a scam (seems to work for some, not for me), the technique they claim to use with brainwave synchronization is certainly real, and i do believe psychedelic states can be reached with the technique however, as stated on both the I-Doser website and within the confines of the brainwave synchronization, there are people easily susceptible, others who have to train their brain to accept the "reprogramming" and others who are immune.
While there are other sounds and frequencies that induce different states I want to focus on the psychedelic states one may be able to reach through this technique.
While it seems to work for some, it doesn't others, so to call the technique bullshit because it didn't work for you would be a irrational decision. Provided I-Doser is genuine, or even using a different more professional program to find or make your own to achieve psychedelic states, what would the effect be on someone who is already in a psychedelic trip?
Would it make people more susceptible to the technique by being on something such as shrooms or lsd?
Even if not, for those who it does work, with the frequencies set to make a person trip, would it increase the effects of the trip already in effect?
I would try to test it out on my own with the exception of one major drawback, we're in a dry spot for shrooms in my town and we never get lsd.
Also, before people start saying that people who use this technique to experience different states of conciousness or even the technique itself stupid ("drugs are better, quicker, etc.")one must remember one of Aldous Huxley's points in Heaven and Hell. That all different states are chemical alterations, and to each his own.
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Edited by cycoshitzo (05/20/08 12:29 PM)
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LSDreamer
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I-Doser is placebo plain and simple. Brainwave entrainment is real, but binaural entrainment is the single LEAST effective method, the most effective being electromagnetics. If you turn the I-Doser files back into SBAgen files, you can read the frequencies that they use and they are extraordinarily simple programs. Their $200 Hand of God file that they claim is incredibly powerful does nothing more than play 3 tones: 0.5hz, 1hz, and 2hz. I-Doser is not only a scam, but they're bullies. A friend of mine was making his own binaural programs and was considering selling them. He had a bit of trash talk (read: truth) about I-Doser on his site, but nothing too major. I-Doser literally hired a group of hackers to get into his email and also strong-armed him into shutting down his site by issuing a cease and desist order which had no legal basis and their law firm refused to talk to my friend until he hired a law firm to represent him, which is totally illegal. Fuck I-Doser. Give them no support.
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cycoshitzo
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i don't, my questions refer to the brain entertainment. i kinda figured something was up with i-doser. i havn't paid for it, i just know it never worked for me. but yes, i'm mainly referring to the brain entertainment. i've read some scientific reports quite some time ago about (not i-doser) actually managing to get lsd-like effects with binaural sync
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Edited by cycoshitzo (05/20/08 01:14 PM)
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If you want to have an altered state of consciousness via soundwaves I recommend listening to a mixdown of the track "How Will We Know?" from The Flaming Lips' Zaireeka album (a four disc set meant to be played simultaneously). There are many mixdowns of all four CD's playing at once circulated via peer to peer.
It utilizes every tone theorized to induce such states and as a bonus the song is amazing. The first time I heard it I definitely felt as if space/time was warped.
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coulterIV
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songcycle67 said:
If you want to have an altered state of consciousness via soundwaves I recommend listening to a mixdown of the track "How Will We Know?" from The Flaming Lips' Zaireeka album (a four disc set meant to be played simultaneously). There are many mixdowns of all four CD's playing at once circulated via peer to peer.
It utilizes every tone theorized to induce such states and as a bonus the song is amazing. The first time I heard it I definitely felt as if space/time was warped.
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Jetcityorange.com has a few free binaural beats that I find heighten my experiences on LSD. Effective or not, they definitely augment a psychedelic experience.
That site also lists some programs you can make your own beats with. Its pretty simple, why pay for some dipshit's beats just because he calls alpha-wave entrainment "cocaine?"
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Wal Mart has a sale on aluminum foil, 50% off if you buy 10 cases, maybe that's a scam and the foil is impregnated with MKULTRA chemicals though, OMG NOOOO!
Edited by Crasher (05/20/08 01:46 PM)
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davedes
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I'm curious... anyone ever tried binaural beats while tripping?
EDIT: Ah, crasher had already answered my question, thanks!
Edited by davedes (05/20/08 02:03 PM)
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songcycle67
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 Re: i-doser [Re: Crasher]
#8424241 - 05/20/08 01:58 PM (5 months, 29 days ago) |
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I am infinitely glad that someone else on here appreciates this album!!! That video is amazing, but it sounds like they left the tones out. 
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coulterIV
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BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU LISTEN TO, SOME BINAURAL BEATS WILL CAUSE DAMAGE OTHERS PROMOTE INCREDIBLE HEALTH BENEFITS
The imposed 440Hz
In 1939 Nazi propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels dictated 440Hz as the standard tuning pitch. This to let people think and feel in a certain manner, and to keep them a prisoner of a certain consciousness. This in spite of that Professor Dussaut from the Paris Conservatory wrote a referendum that was signed by 23,000 French musicians who all were for the preservation of the A= 432Hz. Freedom of choice in bringing back the frequency of the earth is what it's all about today.
http://www.432hz.org/
sound has miraculous healing properties, let me know if you want me to guide you to some amazing frequencies available by jon goldman
Love signal; music & Solfeggio frequency 528 Hz
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LSDreamer
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^tbh, I don't think that binaural entrainment is effective enough to cause any actual damage.
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Do not sit idly by
Do not remain neutral
Do not rely on this broadcast alone
We are only as strong as our signal
There is a war going on for your mind
If you are thinking you are winning
Resistance is victory, Defeat is impossible. Your weapons are already in hand
Reach within you and find the means by which to gain your freedom
Fight with tools. Your fate and that of everyone you know depends on it
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This is my fav. http://www.bwgen.com/
It has some drugs in the dowload list but it also has all kinds of other stuff too.
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I tried the i-doser many times. It never did anything for me. I tried many different doses LSD, Hand of God, etc. People who pay for this are suckers.
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marshalldylan1
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That's why you torrent them.
I find them to be really relaxing.
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I tried the i-doser many times. It never did anything for me. I tried many different doses LSD, Hand of God, etc. People who pay for this are suckers.
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Re: i-doser [Re: Locus]
#8426306 - 05/20/08 10:10 PM (5 months, 29 days ago) |
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they don't work and i'd rather listen to a 5 year old screaming high-pitched nonstop than listen to that garbage.
it's all placebo.
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Zinglons Acolyte
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Quote:
coulterIV said:
BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU LISTEN TO, SOME BINAURAL BEATS WILL CAUSE DAMAGE OTHERS PROMOTE INCREDIBLE HEALTH BENEFITS
The imposed 440Hz
In 1939 Nazi propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels dictated 440Hz as the standard tuning pitch. This to let people think and feel in a certain manner, and to keep them a prisoner of a certain consciousness. This in spite of that Professor Dussaut from the Paris Conservatory wrote a referendum that was signed by 23,000 French musicians who all were for the preservation of the A= 432Hz. Freedom of choice in bringing back the frequency of the earth is what it's all about today.
http://www.432hz.org/
i thought a is 445 in europe and 440 in america
fuck this make me want to get a good tuning fork and tune a 12 string guitar to 432 now, i usually end up tuning to around 443 anyway when i tune to ear, cause 440 just dont seem right to me (im somewhat perfect pitch)
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Zinglons Acolyte
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actually after listening, 435 and 443 seem the best for me, 435 has a lot less of an entrainment effect than 443, but 443 also has less entrainment than 440
so the lower pitch seems a little more organic, but the higer one is more evocative
432 seems a couple hz flat to my ear, ill have to test their harmonic traits on a 12 string, im gonna get one as a graduation present
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And they wandered off.. nine ways till bedfast.
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"And lets pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space 'cause theres bugger-all down here on earth!" -Monty Python's "The Universe Song" from The Meaning of Life
"In the beginning, the universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely considered as a bad move." -Douglas Adams "The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy"
"If the words 'life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness' don't include the right to experiment with your own consciousness, then the Declaration of Independence isn't worth the hemp it was written on." -Terence McKenna
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Thanks for the youtube videos guys im really blazed and they just mad my night they were awsome.
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marshalldylan1
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You can't go in thinking you're gonna actually get a buzz from this.
Try the valium one right before you go to sleep, it really relaxes you.
They don't have just drugs you guys know.
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coulterIV
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Quote:
Zinglons Acolyte said:
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coulterIV said:
BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU LISTEN TO, SOME BINAURAL BEATS WILL CAUSE DAMAGE OTHERS PROMOTE INCREDIBLE HEALTH BENEFITS
The imposed 440Hz
In 1939 Nazi propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels dictated 440Hz as the standard tuning pitch. This to let people think and feel in a certain manner, and to keep them a prisoner of a certain consciousness. This in spite of that Professor Dussaut from the Paris Conservatory wrote a referendum that was signed by 23,000 French musicians who all were for the preservation of the A= 432Hz. Freedom of choice in bringing back the frequency of the earth is what it's all about today.
http://www.432hz.org/
i thought a is 445 in europe and 440 in america
fuck this make me want to get a good tuning fork and tune a 12 string guitar to 432 now, i usually end up tuning to around 443 anyway when i tune to ear, cause 440 just dont seem right to me (im somewhat perfect pitch)
i was messing around with the solfeggio frequency and my kaoss pad on loop and i discovered that most of my improv and what i do is based around the holy harmony. Very reassuring ♥love♥
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