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 Prof_P's Bulk Poo Tek  9
#13271608 - 09/30/10 06:26 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Preparation of a Perfect Bulk Substrate: The Prof_P Bulk Poo Tek
This recipe is meant to fill one clear 64 quart monotub to an approximate 4" Substrate depth.
Ingredients:
- ½ brick coir
- 2 cups pelletized gypsum
- 2 quarts COARSE verm
- 2 lbs (~7liters) field aged h-poo
- 3.75 quarts H2O (approx.)
  
Tools:
- 1 power drill w/ drill bit.
- 1 tape measure
- 1 five gallon bucket
- 1 butter knife
- 1 qt. mason jar
  
Preparation:
Step one : Measure to 4 inches, which is approximately the middle, of the brick of coir and scratch a line dividing it into two equal halves. Take your drill and drive a hole directly through the center of mass of the brick along with another above and beneath it. Now press the brick up against the edge of your sink and snap it in half. It should break easily with its center of mass drilled out.
Peel ½ of the brick of coco coir apart into thin layers with a butter knife, it comes apart very easily; then break into little pieces. Put them in the bucket.
Step two: Add 1 quart of hot H2O to the bucket and wait a couple minutes.
Step three: Break up the coir with your hands. Make sure to get all the fine chunks broken up really well.
Step four: The coir should be fluffed up and damp at this point but not wet. Now you want to add your 2 cups of gypsum and distribute it evenly throughout the bucket of coir. Make sure to mix deep.
 
Note: It would not matter if you added the gypsum last, gypsum is water soluble, but I prefer to add it as the second ingredient in order to make sure to avoid clumping.
Step five: Add the verm. Mix well
 
Step six: Add the poo. Mix well
 
Step seven (The lucky step): Add 2 more quarts of H2O. Mix well. Make sure to dig your fingers all the way to the bottom of the bucket to get any dry areas hydrated.
Next add the final ¾ quart H2O in ¼ quart increments checking for field capacity along the way.
 
Now your ready to pasteurize and spawn.
Here is a link to a video guide of this tek,.....
Edited by ProfessorPinHead (11/17/12 03:13 PM)
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Derpy Whooves
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Very good Tek!
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 Re: Pictoral Guide to a Perfect Bulk Substrate [Re: Derpy Whooves]
#13576447 - 12/03/10 10:29 AM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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how do you personally pastuerize?
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Re: Pictoral Guide to a Perfect Bulk Substrate [Re: k00laid] 1
#13576459 - 12/03/10 10:33 AM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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For my first time
I did everything in oven safe bowls.
After i'm done I put tin-foil over the bowl(s) and keep at 350 for an hour.
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Re: Pictoral Guide to a Perfect Bulk Substrate [Re: Derpy Whooves]
#13576463 - 12/03/10 10:34 AM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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i meant prof >.<
sorry
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Re: Pictoral Guide to a Perfect Bulk Substrate [Re: k00laid]
#13576467 - 12/03/10 10:35 AM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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its cool.
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Re: Pictoral Guide to a Perfect Bulk Substrate [Re: Derpy Whooves]
#13576595 - 12/03/10 11:04 AM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nice tek man
Probably going to use this tek in my
next monotub.
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Re: Pictoral Guide to a Perfect Bulk Substrate [Re: SaturnClaus]
#13576641 - 12/03/10 11:16 AM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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Do you think hydrated lime would work instead of gypsum?
I was just getting ready to try pasteurizing my casing by using the Damion5050 coir tek method of just adding boiling water to the bucket containing the casing mix and letting it sit for 4 hours. It works for coir, it should work for casing, or your recipe or any bulk sub. What do you think? I'm going to try it and see........MM
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Re: Pictoral Guide to a Perfect Bulk Substrate [Re: Mr Mycoman]
#13576686 - 12/03/10 11:27 AM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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i think lime is used as a ph buffer and gypsum is used for nutritional content.
as far as damions coir tek i have heard its best to only use it for coir and to use proper pasteurization for other media. this is because coir is more contam resistant than things like poo, or 50/50 mix. but honestly i have not tried damions coir tek so take what i say with a grain of salt 
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Re: Pictoral Guide to a Perfect Bulk Substrate [Re: deadmandave]
#13576887 - 12/03/10 12:10 PM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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I was thinking along the same lines as you DMD, the poo definately is more prone to contams than coir, but peat/verm should be ok, I would think. No nutritional content?........MM
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Re: Pictoral Guide to a Perfect Bulk Substrate [Re: Mr Mycoman]
#13576902 - 12/03/10 12:13 PM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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yeah MM i think you're right about that, no nutritional value should present a low risk of contam
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Re: Pictoral Guide to a Perfect Bulk Substrate [Re: k00laid]
#13576907 - 12/03/10 12:14 PM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
k00laid said:
how do you personally pastuerize?
I use 5 counter top roasters w/ 4 bags per roaster.
That allows me to prep 5 tubs a day.
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No the poo isn't more prone to contams.
Actually coir is a 1 flush wonder. What I mean by that is I have tubs w/ straight poo get 7 flushes before going green. Coir, you'll be lucky to get 2. So in this sense it is coir that is more prone.
Gypsum is there more to aerate the substrate than provide nutrition.
The nutrition comes primarily from the Poo.
This is why I use 1/2 & 1/2 . It allows me to get more flushes because of the addition of the poo. Just a greater overall yield.
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Edited to add Pic
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Here is a Pic of a tub of PE done with this recipe that just started pinning.
I have a zero % contam rate w/ this recipe.
Edited by ProfessorPinHead (12/03/10 12:30 PM)
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PP, is that a roaster that would be similar to a big crock pot? How big are they? I guess they have a built in thermostat? Sears?....MM
I'm still working out the bugs in my 55 gallon pasteurizer, but I think I have it now. It's in test mode as I type, and it's working good so far.
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Re: Pictoral Guide to a Perfect Bulk Substrate [Re: Mr Mycoman]
#13576985 - 12/03/10 12:40 PM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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This is a more expensive model.
They have cheaper one at walmart.
You need the 18qt. one so you can fit the 4 bags.
Keep in mind its a steam bath method.
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and just regular oven bags?
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Re: Pictoral Guide to a Perfect Bulk Substrate [Re: k00laid]
#13577157 - 12/03/10 01:28 PM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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Why do you bold the "coarse"?
I have a coir/verm bulk colonising now and it's with fine verm.
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Re: Pictoral Guide to a Perfect Bulk Substrate [Re: Hamurabi]
#13577225 - 12/03/10 01:47 PM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
Hamurabi said:
Why do you bold the "coarse"?
I have a coir/verm bulk colonising now and it's with fine verm.
cause it fluffs the mixture up
without coarse then you would need some straw
IMO
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Re: Pictoral Guide to a Perfect Bulk Substrate [Re: jokefox]
#13577499 - 12/03/10 02:45 PM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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Cool, thanks PP. I was thinking about getting one but my 55 gallon home made steamer just passed the test after having to tweak it quite a bit. I'm going to start a post and post the results of my quest.....MM
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Re: Pictoral Guide to a Perfect Bulk Substrate [Re: k00laid]
#13577502 - 12/03/10 02:46 PM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
k00laid said:
and just regular oven bags?
Those fucking things are a nightmare. I want nothing to do with them ever again as long as I live.
I use spawn bags.
Zip tied closed.
lay a patch of waterproof tape (the one that looks like a band-aide)
I then draw a dot w/ a permanent marker. and cut a small hole w/ the tip of a boning knife in order to check the temp with (for this you'll need a meat thermometer).
Note: !!!!!! Be very careful not to poke a hole in the bottom of the oven bag while checking the temp. The bag will get completely saturated if you do and it sux hardcore.
As for the oven bags,.... You can use them but I would double bag them and be very careful as they love to split.
Then you set the temp to 250 and a timer for 15 min.
At this point they should be floating in the water inside your roaster with the lid on the roaster.
Check it every 15min. ..... It takes about an hour to reach 150-60 degrees.
Don't go over 250 though because the temp can sky rocket and you don't want to sterilize your sub by passing 185 degree F.
once you hit 150-60 degrees simply turn the heat down to 150 and set your timer for 60-120 min.
I do 120 though.
At the end of the time slap another piece of tape over the holes where you monitored your temp and toss the bags in a clean bucket w/ a lid clicked closed to cool overnight.
Make sure you clean the bucket w/ soapy water first and dry it w/ a clean rag or paper towel.
The next day your ready to spawn.
Quote:
Hamurabi said:
Why do you bold the "coarse"?
I have a coir/verm bulk colonising now and it's with fine verm.
You can use the fine verm but the coarse is better,.... as Jokefox said it proved a better aeration.
-Prof.
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